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> xmpp failed as big tech (Google, Facebook) protocol Did it? They embraced it, made external XMPP clients being able to interact with their own services, and
by TonyTrapp 5y ago
> xmpp failed as big tech (Google, Facebook) protocol
Did it? They embraced it, made external XMPP clients being able to interact with their own services, and then suddenly cut them off. For all we know, they are still using XMPP internally, they just don't federate anymore.
- Svip 5y agoThey still do. I communicate through Bitlbee/libpurple's XMPP client with friends on Google Hangouts (or whatever it is called now).
- hkt 5y agoFacebook also used xmpp in the past, it appears: https://eion.robbmob.com/blog/2009/11/04/xmpp-facebook-chat/ https://eion.robbmob.com/blog/2009/11/04/xmpp-facebook-chat/ Supposedly WhatsApp is also based on xmpp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhatsApp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhatsApp It is a great pity that something that has created so much value for so many companies now somewhat languishes. A real shame. Not that xmpp isn't great, but it'd be so much better if the platforms that benefited from it had only contributed back more.
- bastawhiz 5y agoGrindr, notably, is based on XMPP.
- OrvalWintermute 5y agoI don't think xmpp failed. Cisco has products based on it, and there is a wealth of clients using it at my workplace. Many of our other partners use it. I see it as very complementary to IRC
- Gigachad 5y ago>I see it as very complementary to IRC That sounds like a failure of XMPP. There is no reason for someone to need two message platforms other than userbases being split. If you actually wanted both for functionality purposes, it shows both of them are lacking.
- lmm 5y agoLike many extension-oriented protocols, XMPP works for internal use where the same organisation (or two closely cooperating organisations) control both ends, but doesn't work for communication between two loosely connected or unrelated parties.