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I wonder if even a majority of people who file one have a legitimate religious objection instead of abusing this ability to get out of mandates.

mensetmanusman 5y ago
If one is young and already had Covid before vaccines were available, there is an ethical argument to be made that you should be allowed to give up your spot in line to the poor who are still waiting all around the world. If you want other people to make your ethical decisions for you when it comes to your own body, we know where that leads.
- azinman2 5y ago
  There is no global waiting list, so whether one in the US takes a vaccine or not isn't going to result in someone else being able to get that same vaccine. Societies make decisions about health of its members all the time in many ways. Which, by the way, has nothing to do with religion and the topic on hand.
  - mensetmanusman 5y ago
    As of now, Africa is still waiting for vaccines: https://www.kuow.org/stories/for-the-36-countries-with-the-lowest-vaccination-rates-supply-isn-t-the-only-issue https://www.kuow.org/stories/for-the-36-countries-with-the-l... It would be disinformation to suggest there is an over-abundance globally.
    - azinman2 5y ago
      I didn’t suggest there was a global over-abundance. I’m suggesting that distribution logistics and business models don’t mean leftover vaccines end up going to Africa. Go get vaccinated if you can. For so many reasons that are very well documented.
imperio59 5y ago
I wonder if the governments enforcing mandates have a legitimate reason to enforce them. There FTFY.
- beecafe 5y ago
  Government actions are legitimate by definition, being them who defines what is legit.
  - imperio59 5y ago
    You have a serious lack of understanding of the US Constitution and the philosophy that lies behind it.
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  I believe that would fall under the General Welfare Clause of the US Constitution.
listless 5y ago
I think most of it is abuse. Of course, I can’t measure it so we don’t know. But anecdotally I can say that my wife uses it. She is very religious and while our religion doesn’t specifically forbid vaccines (how could it - the texts are quite old) she doesn’t want the vaccine so she finds scriptures to back up her position. They are vague passages that _could_ be seen as being specific to vaccines, but of course that’s impossible because they didn’t exist. All said to say, you can use scripture to justify anything you want or don’t want. Just examine…all of history?

mensetmanusman 5y ago

If one is young and already had Covid before vaccines were available, there is an ethical argument to be made that you should be allowed to give up your spot in line to the poor who are still waiting all around the world. If you want other people to make your ethical decisions for you when it comes to your own body, we know where that leads.

azinman2 5y ago
There is no global waiting list, so whether one in the US takes a vaccine or not isn't going to result in someone else being able to get that same vaccine. Societies make decisions about health of its members all the time in many ways. Which, by the way, has nothing to do with religion and the topic on hand.
- mensetmanusman 5y ago
  As of now, Africa is still waiting for vaccines: https://www.kuow.org/stories/for-the-36-countries-with-the-lowest-vaccination-rates-supply-isn-t-the-only-issue https://www.kuow.org/stories/for-the-36-countries-with-the-l... It would be disinformation to suggest there is an over-abundance globally.
  - azinman2 5y ago
    I didn’t suggest there was a global over-abundance. I’m suggesting that distribution logistics and business models don’t mean leftover vaccines end up going to Africa. Go get vaccinated if you can. For so many reasons that are very well documented.

imperio59 5y ago

I wonder if the governments enforcing mandates have a legitimate reason to enforce them. There FTFY.

beecafe 5y ago
Government actions are legitimate by definition, being them who defines what is legit.
- imperio59 5y ago
  You have a serious lack of understanding of the US Constitution and the philosophy that lies behind it.
rootusrootus 5y ago
I believe that would fall under the General Welfare Clause of the US Constitution.

listless 5y ago

I think most of it is abuse. Of course, I can’t measure it so we don’t know. But anecdotally I can say that my wife uses it. She is very religious and while our religion doesn’t specifically forbid vaccines (how could it - the texts are quite old) she doesn’t want the vaccine so she finds scriptures to back up her position. They are vague passages that _could_ be seen as being specific to vaccines, but of course that’s impossible because they didn’t exist. All said to say, you can use scripture to justify anything you want or don’t want. Just examine…all of history?