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People give sales pitches for lots of things. You don't have to listen to them. > Are you sure about this? Whether I'm sure or not... I think everyone should

People give sales pitches for lots of things. You don't have to listen to them. > Are you sure about this? Whether I'm sure or not... I think everyone should be given the choice.

acdha 5y ago
> People give sales pitches for lots of things. You don't have to listen to them. No, but when something has completely failed to live up to the sales pitch and then people try to pretend they'd never made those claims, it's important to remember that track record when deciding whether to trust the new claims. This is especially true in the case of cryptocurrencies which have no value other than social consensus because the same people who were making those original claims stand to gain the most if the new claims convince someone else to buy otherwise worthless tokens. > Whether I'm sure or not... I think everyone should be given the choice. Which they have and nobody is saying should be taken away from them. This is about the conflict between the stated goals and actual demonstrated behaviour.
- howdydoo 5y ago
  Bitcoin is a technology that has various use cases. Just because some person gives a sales pitch, doesn't mean that sales pitch becomes the benchmark by which to measure the technology. Bitcoin is decentralized and does not have one stated goal. Many people use it for many different reasons. If someone keeps changing their claims or is otherwise acting scummy, just ignore them. There are shysters in every industry.
  - acdha 5y ago
    I realize you have a financial interest in us believing that but this isn’t random strangers but the entire movement dating back to the initial manifesto.
    - howdydoo 5y ago
      I mean... no, the success of this burgeoning asset class does not depend on me convincing a single HN poster in a long-buried thread. And there never was a "manifesto", at least not one that I've ever heard about. But thanks anyway for the discussion I guess
      - acdha 5y ago
        If you’re unfamiliar, here’s a link: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
        howdydoo 5y ago
        Wow you're right, that's quite a manifesto. Almost as provocative as this quicksort manifesto. https://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~mjw03/PersonalWebpage/pdfs/quicksort.pdf https://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~mjw03/PersonalWebpage/pdfs/quickso...

People give sales pitches for lots of things. You don't have to listen to them. > Are you sure about this? Whether I'm sure or not... I think everyone should be given the choice.

acdha 5y ago

> People give sales pitches for lots of things. You don't have to listen to them. No, but when something has completely failed to live up to the sales pitch and then people try to pretend they'd never made those claims, it's important to remember that track record when deciding whether to trust the new claims. This is especially true in the case of cryptocurrencies which have no value other than social consensus because the same people who were making those original claims stand to gain the most if the new claims convince someone else to buy otherwise worthless tokens. > Whether I'm sure or not... I think everyone should be given the choice. Which they have and nobody is saying should be taken away from them. This is about the conflict between the stated goals and actual demonstrated behaviour.

howdydoo 5y ago
Bitcoin is a technology that has various use cases. Just because some person gives a sales pitch, doesn't mean that sales pitch becomes the benchmark by which to measure the technology. Bitcoin is decentralized and does not have one stated goal. Many people use it for many different reasons. If someone keeps changing their claims or is otherwise acting scummy, just ignore them. There are shysters in every industry.
- acdha 5y ago
  I realize you have a financial interest in us believing that but this isn’t random strangers but the entire movement dating back to the initial manifesto.
  - howdydoo 5y ago
    I mean... no, the success of this burgeoning asset class does not depend on me convincing a single HN poster in a long-buried thread. And there never was a "manifesto", at least not one that I've ever heard about. But thanks anyway for the discussion I guess
    - acdha 5y ago
      If you’re unfamiliar, here’s a link: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
      - howdydoo 5y ago
        Wow you're right, that's quite a manifesto. Almost as provocative as this quicksort manifesto. https://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~mjw03/PersonalWebpage/pdfs/quicksort.pdf https://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~mjw03/PersonalWebpage/pdfs/quickso...