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Per WSJ, US does the same thing Jan 22. Both following an announcement of doing so in early Dec 2021. Funny how each side never/rarely mentions the other...

bingohbangoh 5y ago
Weren’t OSHA mandates killed by the Supreme Court?
- anamexis 5y ago
  It's not an OSHA mandate.
  - miles 5y ago
    The American Trucking Associations (ATA) led the fight against the OSHA vaccine mandate: ATA-Led Coalition Sues to Block Federal Vaccine Mandate[0] ATA Hails Supreme Court’s Rejection of OSHA Vaccine-or-Test Mandate[1] Supreme Court Stays OSHA Vaccine-or-Test Mandate[2]: "American Trucking Associations President and CEO Chris Spear issued a statement calling it 'a tremendous victory.' ... 'Thanks to this ruling, our industry will continue to deliver critical goods, as our nation recovers from the pandemic and we move our economy forward.'" Prior to that victory, they had been pushing for an industry exemption[3]: "[W]e formally requested that the Biden Administration exempt professional truck drivers from the mandate" [0] https://www.ttnews.com/articles/ata-led-coalition-sues-block-federal-vaccine-mandate https://www.ttnews.com/articles/ata-led-coalition-sues-block... [1] https://www.trucking.org/news-insights/ata-hails-supreme-courts-rejection-osha-vaccine-or-test-mandate https://www.trucking.org/news-insights/ata-hails-supreme-cou... [2] https://www.truckinginfo.com/10159451/supreme-court-stays-osha-vaccine-or-test-mandate https://www.truckinginfo.com/10159451/supreme-court-stays-os... [3] https://www.trucking.org/vaccinemandate https://www.trucking.org/vaccinemandate
    - anamexis 5y ago
      I believe it, but this isn't an OSHA matter, this is a border policy.
      - miles 5y ago
        My apologies; I had misunderstood the earlier comment to mean that the US would be imposing a vaccine mandate on US truckers within the US.
miles 5y ago
> Per WSJ, US does the same thing Jan 22 Do you have that link please? Could not find it.
- anamexis 5y ago
  https://www.wsj.com/articles/truckers-fret-over-pending-covid-19-vaccine-rules-at-u-s-canada-border-11642118416 https://www.wsj.com/articles/truckers-fret-over-pending-covi...
  - miles 5y ago
    Thank you very much. I had mistaken the GP comment to mean US truckers would be subject to the vaccine mandate within the US. Now I understand that the US is imposing a vaccine mandate on Canadian truckers entering the US as of January 22nd. Policy-makers realize the incredible burden that the vaccine mandate would create internally; perhaps a cross-border trade slowdown is not significant enough to warrant reciprocity in their minds?
    - olliej 5y ago
      No, policy makers tried to make the vaccine mandate internally, and the Supreme Court blocked it.
      - salawat 5y ago
        This irritates me quite a bit. This is not the first time the U.S. government has gone "Well, fine. If I can't get away with violating my own Constitution, I'll just use a neighbor/Ally to do it for me, and get what I wanted anyway, except now it's just called Diplomacy!
        olliej 5y ago
        The Supreme Court had no problem restricting womens healthcare, despite those rights being determined to be constitutionally protected. The current SC does not care about the constitution unless it happens to align with their beliefs.
throwawayay02 5y ago
It says so in the article, though. > Shipping will get disrupted in both directions, as the U.S. is the set to impose its own vaccine mandate on foreign travelers on Jan. 22.
gumby 5y ago
This article mentions it too. No need to switch to a different billionaire to get this info.

bingohbangoh 5y ago

Weren’t OSHA mandates killed by the Supreme Court?

anamexis 5y ago
It's not an OSHA mandate.
- miles 5y ago
  The American Trucking Associations (ATA) led the fight against the OSHA vaccine mandate: ATA-Led Coalition Sues to Block Federal Vaccine Mandate[0] ATA Hails Supreme Court’s Rejection of OSHA Vaccine-or-Test Mandate[1] Supreme Court Stays OSHA Vaccine-or-Test Mandate[2]: "American Trucking Associations President and CEO Chris Spear issued a statement calling it 'a tremendous victory.' ... 'Thanks to this ruling, our industry will continue to deliver critical goods, as our nation recovers from the pandemic and we move our economy forward.'" Prior to that victory, they had been pushing for an industry exemption[3]: "[W]e formally requested that the Biden Administration exempt professional truck drivers from the mandate" [0] https://www.ttnews.com/articles/ata-led-coalition-sues-block-federal-vaccine-mandate https://www.ttnews.com/articles/ata-led-coalition-sues-block... [1] https://www.trucking.org/news-insights/ata-hails-supreme-courts-rejection-osha-vaccine-or-test-mandate https://www.trucking.org/news-insights/ata-hails-supreme-cou... [2] https://www.truckinginfo.com/10159451/supreme-court-stays-osha-vaccine-or-test-mandate https://www.truckinginfo.com/10159451/supreme-court-stays-os... [3] https://www.trucking.org/vaccinemandate https://www.trucking.org/vaccinemandate
  - anamexis 5y ago
    I believe it, but this isn't an OSHA matter, this is a border policy.
    - miles 5y ago
      My apologies; I had misunderstood the earlier comment to mean that the US would be imposing a vaccine mandate on US truckers within the US.

miles 5y ago

> Per WSJ, US does the same thing Jan 22 Do you have that link please? Could not find it.

anamexis 5y ago
https://www.wsj.com/articles/truckers-fret-over-pending-covid-19-vaccine-rules-at-u-s-canada-border-11642118416 https://www.wsj.com/articles/truckers-fret-over-pending-covi...
- miles 5y ago
  Thank you very much. I had mistaken the GP comment to mean US truckers would be subject to the vaccine mandate within the US. Now I understand that the US is imposing a vaccine mandate on Canadian truckers entering the US as of January 22nd. Policy-makers realize the incredible burden that the vaccine mandate would create internally; perhaps a cross-border trade slowdown is not significant enough to warrant reciprocity in their minds?
  - olliej 5y ago
    No, policy makers tried to make the vaccine mandate internally, and the Supreme Court blocked it.
    - salawat 5y ago
      This irritates me quite a bit. This is not the first time the U.S. government has gone "Well, fine. If I can't get away with violating my own Constitution, I'll just use a neighbor/Ally to do it for me, and get what I wanted anyway, except now it's just called Diplomacy!
      - olliej 5y ago
        The Supreme Court had no problem restricting womens healthcare, despite those rights being determined to be constitutionally protected. The current SC does not care about the constitution unless it happens to align with their beliefs.

throwawayay02 5y ago

It says so in the article, though. > Shipping will get disrupted in both directions, as the U.S. is the set to impose its own vaccine mandate on foreign travelers on Jan. 22.

gumby 5y ago

This article mentions it too. No need to switch to a different billionaire to get this info.