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Truly a novel situation we find ourselves in: https://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3Ahospitals+intitle%3Aoverwhelmed+before%3A2018 https://www.google.com/se

by Lammy 5y ago

Truly a novel situation we find ourselves in: https://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3Ahospitals+intitle%3Aoverwhelmed+before%3A2018 https://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3Ahospitals+intitle%... https://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3Ahospitals+intitle%3A%22breaking+point%22+before%3A2018 https://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3Ahospitals+intitle%...

pstoll 5y ago
I think activating “crisis standards of care” is a bit more substantial and worrying than any previous claims of being simply “overwhelmed” which could be subjective. This is what we are seeing here in the US. https://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3Ahospitals+intitle%3A%22crisis+standards+of+care%22 https://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3Ahospitals+intitle%...
javagram 5y ago
Check the death statistics instead of headlines and you'll see it truly is a novel situation - no previous year saw as many Americans die as 2020 and 2021. And excess deaths correspond closely to regions that saw high reported COVID-19 deaths, indicating "COVID-19 deaths" are people who would not have died had they not been infected with and killed by COVID-19. 2022 death rates are still high, nearing 2000 people killed by COVID-19 daily. We can hope that due to the death toll hitting mostly the unvaccinated, plus omicron being a somewhat milder than Delta, we won't possibly be able to hit the same high death rates all year long.
- Lammy 5y ago
  No previous year saw as many Americans live as 2020 and 2021 either :) https://www.census.gov/popclock/ https://www.census.gov/popclock/ https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?tid=PEPNATMONTHLY2021.NA_EST2021_POP&hidePreview=false https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?tid=PEPNATMONTHLY2021.N...
  - Eldt 5y ago
    Good thing births offset deaths :)
  - javagram 5y ago
    That data is irrelevant to my point. Compare deaths from 2015 through 2021 on a bar chart and the discontinuity is obvious even to the naked eye. See the charts shown on https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2021/04/25/is-it-really-true-that-the-u-s-death-rate-in-2020-was-the-highest-above-normal-since-the-early-1900s-even-surpassing-the-calamity-of-the-1918-flu-pandemic/ https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2021/04/25/is-it-real... for a simple visual example.

by Lammy 5y ago

pstoll 5y ago

I think activating “crisis standards of care” is a bit more substantial and worrying than any previous claims of being simply “overwhelmed” which could be subjective. This is what we are seeing here in the US. https://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3Ahospitals+intitle%3A%22crisis+standards+of+care%22 https://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3Ahospitals+intitle%...

javagram 5y ago

Check the death statistics instead of headlines and you'll see it truly is a novel situation - no previous year saw as many Americans die as 2020 and 2021. And excess deaths correspond closely to regions that saw high reported COVID-19 deaths, indicating "COVID-19 deaths" are people who would not have died had they not been infected with and killed by COVID-19. 2022 death rates are still high, nearing 2000 people killed by COVID-19 daily. We can hope that due to the death toll hitting mostly the unvaccinated, plus omicron being a somewhat milder than Delta, we won't possibly be able to hit the same high death rates all year long.

Lammy 5y ago
No previous year saw as many Americans live as 2020 and 2021 either :) https://www.census.gov/popclock/ https://www.census.gov/popclock/ https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?tid=PEPNATMONTHLY2021.NA_EST2021_POP&hidePreview=false https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?tid=PEPNATMONTHLY2021.N...
- Eldt 5y ago
  Good thing births offset deaths :)
- javagram 5y ago
  That data is irrelevant to my point. Compare deaths from 2015 through 2021 on a bar chart and the discontinuity is obvious even to the naked eye. See the charts shown on https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2021/04/25/is-it-really-true-that-the-u-s-death-rate-in-2020-was-the-highest-above-normal-since-the-early-1900s-even-surpassing-the-calamity-of-the-1918-flu-pandemic/ https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2021/04/25/is-it-real... for a simple visual example.