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Germany, but what is the upside to do the PCR test? You get officially in Isolation and can get a visit from the regulatory office to check if you are at home.

Germany, but what is the upside to do the PCR test? You get officially in Isolation and can get a visit from the regulatory office to check if you are at home. AFAICS there is no upside. You won't get any treatment protocol, any help. You just get more pressure over you. I won't have the proof of recovery, but actually I don't need it since I have all certificates (2 shots + booster). That's make me think if this whole thing makes sense: As it is now, I can go everywhere (even with an antigen positive), because I have the booster certificate and therefore I don't have to test myself. The only real meaningful approach would be test everyone, everywhere regardless of the vaccination.

ErikCorry 5y ago
If you get a long covid symptom and want to be treated for that it might be smart to keep your medical records up to date. Hard to know what the future brings on long covid and treatments for it. Or conceivably in a year they have two vaccines, one is more suitable for those that are recovered, the other more suitable for those who never had it. Which one will they give you?
- SOLAR_FIELDS 5y ago
  I know this isn’t as much the case these days, but as of late 2020 several of the long COVID clinics in my area were only accepting patients if they could demonstrate a positive test. Presumably that requirement has laxed lately though.
- pelasaco 5y ago
  I think thats FUD. I will be able to tell if I had it or not. Maybe I had it while not in here? Maybe I had it and didn't realize? It is for sure not an incentive to do the bureaucratic necessary dance.
ryandrake 5y ago
You should be isolating either way. Just because you can go everywhere doesn't mean you should. People going out and about while unknowingly positive is why this thing won't end. Testing positive and deliberately not isolating is even worse. You're right though: If you look at it only through the lens of individual incentives, the official test has no upside. One of the huge problems with governments' responses to this pandemic is they are not closing these loopholes. People will take the most convenient option, not necessarily the one benefiting public health. To align individual and societal incentives, governments need to make not-isolating when infectious more inconvenient/costly than isolating.
- pelasaco 5y ago
  but did you read what I wrote? I will stay at home isolated until I'm negative. So for sure I will stay home. What I question is how good is the idea of "vaccination + booster" vs "lets test everyone, everywhere" specially now that is more or less clear that Omicron can go through the vaccines.
  - ryandrake 5y ago
    Oops, missed that you are the same person as grandparent post.
- darepublic 5y ago
  > To align individual and societal incentives, governments need to make not-isolating when infectious more inconvenient/costly than isolating. All stick no carrot huh
NicoJuicy 5y ago
I think getting a PCR test would be pretty good, since with catching it. You have an "additional protection" lasting several months. Since the booster stays effective ~10 weeks, it could be possible that you don't need to get an additional booster between March-June. ( depends on a lot of variables ofc. I'm currently vaccinated and not boostered and not immediately planning on taking a booster based on the previous variant for a "relatively" harmless virus for vaccinated people)

ErikCorry 5y ago

If you get a long covid symptom and want to be treated for that it might be smart to keep your medical records up to date. Hard to know what the future brings on long covid and treatments for it. Or conceivably in a year they have two vaccines, one is more suitable for those that are recovered, the other more suitable for those who never had it. Which one will they give you?

SOLAR_FIELDS 5y ago
I know this isn’t as much the case these days, but as of late 2020 several of the long COVID clinics in my area were only accepting patients if they could demonstrate a positive test. Presumably that requirement has laxed lately though.
pelasaco 5y ago
I think thats FUD. I will be able to tell if I had it or not. Maybe I had it while not in here? Maybe I had it and didn't realize? It is for sure not an incentive to do the bureaucratic necessary dance.

ryandrake 5y ago

You should be isolating either way. Just because you can go everywhere doesn't mean you should. People going out and about while unknowingly positive is why this thing won't end. Testing positive and deliberately not isolating is even worse. You're right though: If you look at it only through the lens of individual incentives, the official test has no upside. One of the huge problems with governments' responses to this pandemic is they are not closing these loopholes. People will take the most convenient option, not necessarily the one benefiting public health. To align individual and societal incentives, governments need to make not-isolating when infectious more inconvenient/costly than isolating.

pelasaco 5y ago
but did you read what I wrote? I will stay at home isolated until I'm negative. So for sure I will stay home. What I question is how good is the idea of "vaccination + booster" vs "lets test everyone, everywhere" specially now that is more or less clear that Omicron can go through the vaccines.
- ryandrake 5y ago
  Oops, missed that you are the same person as grandparent post.
darepublic 5y ago
> To align individual and societal incentives, governments need to make not-isolating when infectious more inconvenient/costly than isolating. All stick no carrot huh

NicoJuicy 5y ago

I think getting a PCR test would be pretty good, since with catching it. You have an "additional protection" lasting several months. Since the booster stays effective ~10 weeks, it could be possible that you don't need to get an additional booster between March-June. ( depends on a lot of variables ofc. I'm currently vaccinated and not boostered and not immediately planning on taking a booster based on the previous variant for a "relatively" harmless virus for vaccinated people)