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TLDR: For anybody wondering why "hospitals" appears in the subject line, it's purely click-bait. Hospital services were not targeted or particularly affected mo

TLDR: For anybody wondering why "hospitals" appears in the subject line, it's purely click-bait. Hospital services were not targeted or particularly affected more than any other industry. The only statistic in the article that gives a clue how many hospitals were affected appears in the statement: "In Montana, more than 250 nurses at Missoula's Community Medical Center have missed out on pay due to the hospital's decision to pay employees by duplicating an early December paycheck" So in this particular company, some nurses were forced to accept their expected regular+OT pay and will have to wait a couple more weeks for any extra overtime they might be entitled to. How many healthcare workers were affected? No more than any other industry. I couldn't find any news on the internet actually revealing how many workers in general were affected other than "up to thousands". So how many might be health care workers? Up to hundreds? So maybe 0.005% of healthcare workers have been inconvienced? So my question is, why has NPR specifically addressed the impact to "hospitals"? Why is the impact to healthcare workers more important and news-worthy than to the impact to everybody else? > "The outage is an unneeded administrative nightmare timed precisely as the omicron surge is hitting hospitals, Riggi said." Ah! The outage was "timed"!!!! The evil hackers intentionally timed the attack to threaten COVID victims!!!! My god! They're MONSTERS! attacking and murdering the weakest of us! It's outrageous! What should be done? Is it's time to fire up the gas chambers for these inhuman hacker terrorists? Or maybe it just time to click on NPR's clickbait title?

indymike 5y ago
> The evil hackers intentionally timed the attack to threaten COVID victims!!!! My god! They're MONSTERS! attacking and murdering the weakest of us! It's outrageous! Actually, in this case, the shoe fits.
- grammarnazzzi 5y ago
  I don't agree. The hackers are criminals and extortionists. No more. The impact of the crime is embarrassment to businesses, time and money recovering from data loss, and an inconvenience to workers across all industries. NPR played up an angle that doesn't exist in any meaningful or significant way. Why? More clicks. I expect criminals to be assholes. I expect more from NPR. They used to have more integrity and objectivity than they do today.
  - indymike 5y ago
    > I don't agree > The hackers are criminals and extortionists. I think where we disagree is the impact of the crime. I'm pretty sure the UKG hit is going to do a lot more damage to UKG's customer's customers (patients not getting good care because the hospital couldn't write a paycheck) that "embarrassment" and "data loss".
patentatt 5y ago
I personally know of at least one other hospital that was also affected and took the same actions of duplicating previous checks. So it's much more widespread than just one hospital at the very least.
- jrnichols 5y ago
  I can't think of a hospital that is not using Kronos, to be honest with you. It's at literally every one that I go to frequently in my EMS job.
jrnichols 5y ago
> So how many might be health care workers? Up to hundreds? Try tens of thousands of employees, easily. This outage affects more than just nurses trying to clock in. It's used for fire, police, dispatch, EMS, city utilities, auxiliary staff like the hospital cafeteria workers, and so on. This is a huge problem for many of us.

indymike 5y ago

> The evil hackers intentionally timed the attack to threaten COVID victims!!!! My god! They're MONSTERS! attacking and murdering the weakest of us! It's outrageous! Actually, in this case, the shoe fits.

grammarnazzzi 5y ago
I don't agree. The hackers are criminals and extortionists. No more. The impact of the crime is embarrassment to businesses, time and money recovering from data loss, and an inconvenience to workers across all industries. NPR played up an angle that doesn't exist in any meaningful or significant way. Why? More clicks. I expect criminals to be assholes. I expect more from NPR. They used to have more integrity and objectivity than they do today.
- indymike 5y ago
  > I don't agree > The hackers are criminals and extortionists. I think where we disagree is the impact of the crime. I'm pretty sure the UKG hit is going to do a lot more damage to UKG's customer's customers (patients not getting good care because the hospital couldn't write a paycheck) that "embarrassment" and "data loss".

patentatt 5y ago

I personally know of at least one other hospital that was also affected and took the same actions of duplicating previous checks. So it's much more widespread than just one hospital at the very least.

jrnichols 5y ago
I can't think of a hospital that is not using Kronos, to be honest with you. It's at literally every one that I go to frequently in my EMS job.

jrnichols 5y ago

> So how many might be health care workers? Up to hundreds? Try tens of thousands of employees, easily. This outage affects more than just nurses trying to clock in. It's used for fire, police, dispatch, EMS, city utilities, auxiliary staff like the hospital cafeteria workers, and so on. This is a huge problem for many of us.