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A more effective approach would be to highlight how the far-right uses encrypted chat apps. That would get the majority of the media and blue-checks supporting

by 323 5y ago

A more effective approach would be to highlight how the far-right uses encrypted chat apps. That would get the majority of the media and blue-checks supporting you. > Why right-wing extremists’ favorite new platform is so dangerous. Telegram’s lax content moderation and encrypted chats make it a convenient tool for extremists. https://www.vox.com/recode/22238755/telegram-messaging-social-media-extremists https://www.vox.com/recode/22238755/telegram-messaging-socia... > In collaboration with anti-fascist research group the White Rose Society, the Guardian has tracked McLean’s activity through the rabbit warren of largely unregulated Telegram groups and found that he describes a vastly different version of his intentions. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/mar/26/where-freedom-meets-the-far-right-the-hate-messages-infiltrating-australian-anti-lockdown-protests https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/mar/26/where... > Far-right groups move online conversations from social media to chat apps — and out of view of law enforcement https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/14/telegram-warned-of-nurturing-subculture-deifying-terrorists https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/14/telegram-war... > White supremacists openly organize racist violence on Telegram, report finds https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/26/tech/white-supremacists-telegram-racism-intl/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/26/tech/white-supremacists-t... > Are Private Messaging Apps the Next Misinformation Hot Spot? Telegram and Signal, the encrypted services that keep conversations confidential, are increasingly popular. Our tech columnists discuss whether this could get ugly. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/03/technology/personaltech/telegram-signal-misinformation.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/03/technology/personaltech/t... > A report this week found that the messaging app had emerged as a central hub for several conspiracy movements espousing antisemitic tropes and memes, including QAnon, as well as others on the extreme right promoting violence. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/15/parler-telegram-chat-apps/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/15/parler-...

FabHK 5y ago
Telegram is not e2ee, by default, IIRC. You have to manually switch to an encrypted chat. Are those group chats typically e2ee?
- detaro 5y ago
  Telegram doesn't support e2ee for group chats.
  - stjohnswarts 5y ago
    Yep, no way to make them encrypted.
decremental 5y ago
Clearly extremist rhetoric. It needs to be called out before we all drown in it. Luckily and thankfully the community is identifying it as such.
wanda 5y ago
Don't forget to promote chopping off everyone's hands. I hear some ultra-right-wing people might be typing their nonsense with their hands. So we should make sure no one has hands, that'll get em. ~ Also, this list of US news vendors' articles against e2ee is kinda evidence that it's not just the UK going on a campaign.
- ufmace 5y ago
  I think the parent was commenting not on the ability of disfavored groups to use encrypted chat to organize, but on how readily the current social elite can be scared into banning anything by telling them that such disfavored groups are using it.

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FabHK 5y ago

Telegram is not e2ee, by default, IIRC. You have to manually switch to an encrypted chat. Are those group chats typically e2ee?

detaro 5y ago
Telegram doesn't support e2ee for group chats.
- stjohnswarts 5y ago
  Yep, no way to make them encrypted.

decremental 5y ago

Clearly extremist rhetoric. It needs to be called out before we all drown in it. Luckily and thankfully the community is identifying it as such.

wanda 5y ago

Don't forget to promote chopping off everyone's hands. I hear some ultra-right-wing people might be typing their nonsense with their hands. So we should make sure no one has hands, that'll get em. ~ Also, this list of US news vendors' articles against e2ee is kinda evidence that it's not just the UK going on a campaign.

ufmace 5y ago
I think the parent was commenting not on the ability of disfavored groups to use encrypted chat to organize, but on how readily the current social elite can be scared into banning anything by telling them that such disfavored groups are using it.