I am just checking I understand you. That "everyone" (let's say everyone in a white collar job) can use Excel today is true. And yes it is possible to "progra

I am just checking I understand you. That "everyone" (let's say everyone in a white collar job) can use Excel today is true. And yes it is possible to "program" in excel. But that's in the "small". And I think you are saying that we don't have the programming ecosystem to support large scale development. I think I agree. But we have to raise the floor of programming literacy a lot beyond "white collar excel". But having said all that, I am dubious that we lack the principles of coding to be able to enable massive software projects - I think we lack the organisational (incentives / understanding / will) to do so. We can imagine a mid sized company that is OSS based, avoids proprietary lock in of its data.