Like I say, I don't want to have to argue for any particular side in those debates, or to make those positions sound serious if they are not (although I think s

Like I say, I don't want to have to argue for any particular side in those debates, or to make those positions sound serious if they are not (although I think some people do seriously hold them). My point was that just because something can be labelled "progressive" doesn't mean that everyone supports it (or supports it enough to pay more taxes for it).