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I've managed to resist getting a smartphone for as long as possible. This got to be impossible for me at roundabout the year of 2018 with some of the developme

by gyulai 5y ago

I've managed to resist getting a smartphone for as long as possible. This got to be impossible for me at roundabout the year of 2018 with some of the developments in the 2FA space. For example two of my banks now make it impossible to use their online banking unless you have their 2FA apps and I can't log in to my employer's systems without a 2FA app (and you can only get those on the Apple App Store for iOS or Google Play for Android). The pragmatic solution for me has been to have a smartphone without a SIM card, only connected to WiFi, lying around in my office and not carrying it around with me. But I fear that the next development is around the corner that will now finally force me to carry a smart phone with me, namely things like Corona checkin apps or restaurants no longer doing printed menus and instead having QR codes at tables for fetching their menus from the web. -- The cost-benefit tradeoff of such developments strikes me as insanely bad, but unfortunately it seems to be where humanity is headed.

OJFord 5y ago
> For example two of my banks now make it impossible to use their online banking unless you have their 2FA apps and I can't log in to my employer's systems without a 2FA app (and you can only get those on the Apple App Store for iOS or Google Play for Android). That should be illegal... The employer at least I suppose you can already request a work phone if they require it. At least I'm pretty sure that's the case here. Actually, are you sure the banks require their apps though, even if they say they do? Google also says you need its Authenticator for example, but you don't, you can use Authy.
- alpaca128 5y ago
  I don't now a bank here that supports anything other than their own app. They don't support Linux and refuse to give me a dedicated TAN generator for whatever reason, so my only choice is using the Android app. That forced me to finally leave BB10 OS and buy a new smartphone. As a result I rarely carry my phone around. I really don't like interacting with the UI, it feels like navigating a website with tons of ad popups and after a decade of using smartphones I still hate virtual keyboards.

by gyulai 5y ago

OJFord 5y ago

> For example two of my banks now make it impossible to use their online banking unless you have their 2FA apps and I can't log in to my employer's systems without a 2FA app (and you can only get those on the Apple App Store for iOS or Google Play for Android). That should be illegal... The employer at least I suppose you can already request a work phone if they require it. At least I'm pretty sure that's the case here. Actually, are you sure the banks require their apps though, even if they say they do? Google also says you need its Authenticator for example, but you don't, you can use Authy.

alpaca128 5y ago
I don't now a bank here that supports anything other than their own app. They don't support Linux and refuse to give me a dedicated TAN generator for whatever reason, so my only choice is using the Android app. That forced me to finally leave BB10 OS and buy a new smartphone. As a result I rarely carry my phone around. I really don't like interacting with the UI, it feels like navigating a website with tons of ad popups and after a decade of using smartphones I still hate virtual keyboards.