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The land either belongs to Egypt or to Sudan. Suppose I buy a bike from you. The bike is faulty so I declare the transaction null and void and demand my money b

The land either belongs to Egypt or to Sudan. Suppose I buy a bike from you. The bike is faulty so I declare the transaction null and void and demand my money back. You refuse to reverse the transaction. Who owns the bike? You claim I own the bike and I claim you own it. Who the owner actually is won't be settled before a court process. Bir Tawil is the same. Thus third parties claiming Bir Tawil is nonsense. It's like a random person claiming the bike is theirs since neither I nor who I bought it from wants it. This is different from stuff that legitimately has no owner, like a flower in a forest. Unless the forest is private property, the flower has no owner until it is picked. As can be imagined, very few things actually has no owner.

meitham 5y ago
Exactly. There are people who never set a foot on that region claiming the land from the comfort of their sofa, such as the owner of this site http://bir-tawil.com/ http://bir-tawil.com/
- probably_wrong 5y ago
  Out of all joke domains I've seen, this one is probably the laziest. They got a standard city template, changed the title... and that's it. They didn't even replace the lorem ipsum. 1/5 stars, would not recommend.
Mordisquitos 5y ago
The bike analogy breaks down when a random person comes and surreptitiously takes the bike away from you while you and the seller are arguing. The taker makes no claim of ownership, they just take the bike and use it, as it is in a good enough condition for them. Who then has the motivation to stop the ostensible theft: you or the seller? The seller doesn't care, but you do. Without possession of the bike you cannot hope to return it in exchange for the money. By contrast, say that a third party somehow manages to make use of Bir Tawil, without having any effect on the surrounding land, without posing as a security threat, and without making any actual claim. Which country is most motivated to intervene in principle: Sudan or Egypt?

meitham 5y ago

Exactly. There are people who never set a foot on that region claiming the land from the comfort of their sofa, such as the owner of this site http://bir-tawil.com/ http://bir-tawil.com/

probably_wrong 5y ago
Out of all joke domains I've seen, this one is probably the laziest. They got a standard city template, changed the title... and that's it. They didn't even replace the lorem ipsum. 1/5 stars, would not recommend.

Mordisquitos 5y ago

The bike analogy breaks down when a random person comes and surreptitiously takes the bike away from you while you and the seller are arguing. The taker makes no claim of ownership, they just take the bike and use it, as it is in a good enough condition for them. Who then has the motivation to stop the ostensible theft: you or the seller? The seller doesn't care, but you do. Without possession of the bike you cannot hope to return it in exchange for the money. By contrast, say that a third party somehow manages to make use of Bir Tawil, without having any effect on the surrounding land, without posing as a security threat, and without making any actual claim. Which country is most motivated to intervene in principle: Sudan or Egypt?