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Explain please?

rosndo 5y ago
JCS frames what he does as psychology, most of the things he claims have absolutely nothing to do with the field. He regularly makes wild claims which aren’t supported by research at all. In (real) psychology you rarely have clear “x caused y” situations, in JCS’s “criminal psychology” you do. Stuff like this can be incredibly dangerous, people have literally been sentenced to death based on the testimony of similar quacks.
- aestetix 5y ago
  Would you also argue that TV shows like "The Search for Bigfoot" and whatnot should be banned? I can understand removing something because it contains personal information or something really obscene (like terrorists beheading someone), but videos like this are mostly just entertainment.
  - rosndo 5y ago
    I think “Search for Bigfoot” is obviously different. Nobody is going to hurt themselves or others after watching it. JCS - Criminal Psychology will create idiots who think they’re master criminal psychologists and get innocent people put in prison. There’s a simple solution for JCS, just distance from the pseudoscientific “psychology” and stick to the true crime.
    - kolanos 5y ago
      Can you give any specific examples of JCS perpetuating pseudo science?
    - effingwewt 5y ago
      Quite the slipper slope you got going on there. I fail to see how a youtube video discussing interrogation techniques is going to magically cause people to 'think they're master criminal psychologists and get innocent people put in prison.' By your reasoning anything discussing anything could be 'harmful'. How about we decide for ourselves what we want to watch/listen/read.
      - rosndo 5y ago
        >discussing interrogation techniques Spreading misinformation about interrogation techniques in a sort-of educational format. > How about we decide for ourselves what we want to watch/listen/read. We can, of course. I just also happen to believe that youtube should get to decide what they distribute, and this is a fairly reasonable thing to choose not to distribute.
        throwaway73838 5y ago
        What if I deem your comment to be misinformation because it could lead to people developing capitalistic tendencies? Would you have a problem then?
        joshuamorton 5y ago
        You can deem whatever you want. You don't run HN, so its not really relevant.
        effingwewt 5y ago
        You don't run youtube either, so why is what you think relevant? For all you know it could be C&D letters, not all the vids have been stricken. You've an obvious axe to grind, which is fine, but does not give you the right to dictate what is and is not misinformation, nor harmful.
        joshuamorton 5y ago
        > You've an obvious axe to grind, which is fine, but does not give you the right to dictate what is and is not misinformation, nor harmful. I'm a different person. I don't have an axe to grind. I'm not dictating anything misinformation or not. Neither was the other person. > For all you know it could be C&D letters, not all the vids have been stricken Then why would we be talking about videos YouTube removed for being misinformation? > You don't run youtube either, so why is what you think relevant? I believe the statement made was "YouTube has the right to choose what they distribute". You also have that right. So do I. I don't need to run YouTube (or HN) to believe they have those rights. You or I can deem whatever we wish, and you'd be correct: it isn't relevant.
    - retrac 5y ago
      > Nobody is going to hurt themselves or others after watching it. https://www.montanarightnow.com/community/man-says-he-was-shot-at-after-being-mistaken-for-bigfoot/article_af285c0c-030e-11e9-adcc-bf5f6b22f1c5.html https://www.montanarightnow.com/community/man-says-he-was-sh... Don't be so sure.
    - kolanos 5y ago
      > JCS - Criminal Psychology will create idiots who think they’re master criminal psychologists and get innocent people put in prison. This is, at best, hyperbole. But you know what else creates idiots? The homogenization of information.
- gpas 5y ago
  Isn't homeopathy pseudoscience? Yet YouTube is full of people praising it.
- apostacy 5y ago
  I have no idea what videos you were watching. The thing that is so compelling about JCS is that he keeps his distance from the subject, and lets the facts speak for themselves most of the time. The only time he really talks about psychology at any length it is pretty textbook criminology that you could find on the wikipedia entry about criminal psychology.
- no_time 5y ago
  >Stuff like this can be incredibly dangerous By this logic, History Channel should've been sent to the shadow realm decades ago along with their alien pyramids and pawn shop "experts".
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- brokenmachine 5y ago
  So what? Most videos on youtube are just people giving their opinion. I enjoyed the videos. >people have literally been sentenced to death based on the testimony of similar quacks The court system needs an overhaul if it's basing death sentences on the opinions of youtubers.

Explain please?

JCS frames what he does as psychology, most of the things he claims have absolutely nothing to do with the field. He regularly makes wild claims which aren’t supported by research at all. In (real) psychology you rarely have clear “x caused y” situations, in JCS’s “criminal psychology” you do. Stuff like this can be incredibly dangerous, people have literally been sentenced to death based on the testimony of similar quacks.

aestetix 5y ago
Would you also argue that TV shows like "The Search for Bigfoot" and whatnot should be banned? I can understand removing something because it contains personal information or something really obscene (like terrorists beheading someone), but videos like this are mostly just entertainment.
- rosndo 5y ago
  I think “Search for Bigfoot” is obviously different. Nobody is going to hurt themselves or others after watching it. JCS - Criminal Psychology will create idiots who think they’re master criminal psychologists and get innocent people put in prison. There’s a simple solution for JCS, just distance from the pseudoscientific “psychology” and stick to the true crime.
  - kolanos 5y ago
    Can you give any specific examples of JCS perpetuating pseudo science?
  - effingwewt 5y ago
    Quite the slipper slope you got going on there. I fail to see how a youtube video discussing interrogation techniques is going to magically cause people to 'think they're master criminal psychologists and get innocent people put in prison.' By your reasoning anything discussing anything could be 'harmful'. How about we decide for ourselves what we want to watch/listen/read.
    - rosndo 5y ago
      >discussing interrogation techniques Spreading misinformation about interrogation techniques in a sort-of educational format. > How about we decide for ourselves what we want to watch/listen/read. We can, of course. I just also happen to believe that youtube should get to decide what they distribute, and this is a fairly reasonable thing to choose not to distribute.
      - throwaway73838 5y ago
        What if I deem your comment to be misinformation because it could lead to people developing capitalistic tendencies? Would you have a problem then?
        joshuamorton 5y ago
        You can deem whatever you want. You don't run HN, so its not really relevant.
        effingwewt 5y ago
        You don't run youtube either, so why is what you think relevant? For all you know it could be C&D letters, not all the vids have been stricken. You've an obvious axe to grind, which is fine, but does not give you the right to dictate what is and is not misinformation, nor harmful.
        joshuamorton 5y ago
        > You've an obvious axe to grind, which is fine, but does not give you the right to dictate what is and is not misinformation, nor harmful. I'm a different person. I don't have an axe to grind. I'm not dictating anything misinformation or not. Neither was the other person. > For all you know it could be C&D letters, not all the vids have been stricken Then why would we be talking about videos YouTube removed for being misinformation? > You don't run youtube either, so why is what you think relevant? I believe the statement made was "YouTube has the right to choose what they distribute". You also have that right. So do I. I don't need to run YouTube (or HN) to believe they have those rights. You or I can deem whatever we wish, and you'd be correct: it isn't relevant.
  - retrac 5y ago
    > Nobody is going to hurt themselves or others after watching it. https://www.montanarightnow.com/community/man-says-he-was-shot-at-after-being-mistaken-for-bigfoot/article_af285c0c-030e-11e9-adcc-bf5f6b22f1c5.html https://www.montanarightnow.com/community/man-says-he-was-sh... Don't be so sure.
  - kolanos 5y ago
    > JCS - Criminal Psychology will create idiots who think they’re master criminal psychologists and get innocent people put in prison. This is, at best, hyperbole. But you know what else creates idiots? The homogenization of information.
gpas 5y ago
Isn't homeopathy pseudoscience? Yet YouTube is full of people praising it.
apostacy 5y ago
I have no idea what videos you were watching. The thing that is so compelling about JCS is that he keeps his distance from the subject, and lets the facts speak for themselves most of the time. The only time he really talks about psychology at any length it is pretty textbook criminology that you could find on the wikipedia entry about criminal psychology.
no_time 5y ago
>Stuff like this can be incredibly dangerous By this logic, History Channel should've been sent to the shadow realm decades ago along with their alien pyramids and pawn shop "experts".
- deleted 5y ago
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brokenmachine 5y ago
So what? Most videos on youtube are just people giving their opinion. I enjoyed the videos. >people have literally been sentenced to death based on the testimony of similar quacks The court system needs an overhaul if it's basing death sentences on the opinions of youtubers.