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I recently downloaded skyrim and played for the first time, yes I'm quite late to it, but considering the hype of the game I was massively disappointed. The com

by jwmoz 5y ago

I recently downloaded skyrim and played for the first time, yes I'm quite late to it, but considering the hype of the game I was massively disappointed. The combat and manoeuvring was truly awful. People will say, ah yes but the story, the lore! But if I wanted that I'd read a book. After playing for a while I decided to try red dead 2 and can say that that game is so, so much better than skyrim imho.

pverghese 5y ago
Skyrim was released in 2011. It was groundbreaking when it was released. A lot has changed in 10 years.
tsimionescu 5y ago
I have never heard anyone particularly praise Skyrim's story, and rarely even the lore. What I think people usually like about it is the mix - magical world, graphics, decently weighty combat, big monsters, people to talk to or murder or steal from etc. It doesn't excel at any one of these, but there is also nothing else outside the series offering the same combination. Perhaps RDR2 does improve on every aspect, but the massive difference in setting will still mean that both have a place - especially for this type of exploration game.
Xplune13 5y ago
You're comparing 2 games which were a generation of console apart and a lot of things happen between those 7-8 years. > People will say, ah yes but the story, the lore! But if I wanted that I'd read a book. That story and lore in the video game are exactly the reason I play video games i.e. video game can easily transport you into a world which you can see/hear/play-in instead of only imagining it in your mind. Books can never come anywhere close to that because of obvious restrictions of the medium and that was the reason, many (including me) were instantly captivated by the world of Skyrim. They successfully created a world full of atmosphere and lore along with the freedom of exploration and managed to do it excellently even compared to most of the games released now (and the thing is I also played Skyrim late in 2019, yet it is probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite game of all time). It's unfortunate that you didn't like it, so have fun with RDR2 (which is an excellent game with arguably the best storyline and characters in any video game till date).
billfruit 5y ago
May be using a controller makes it better. The keyboard and mouse controls of Skyrim seem non-intutive.
smokey_circles 5y ago
It's a Bethesda game. So it needs mods to truly be appreciated. Doubly so 11 years after release. I did this with Oblivion, glad I did cuz I love that game
- BlueTemplar 5y ago
  I haven't played Skyrim, but I found Oblivion so boring (though extremely pretty), coming from Baldur's Gate 2...
  - tsimionescu 5y ago
    Depending on what you like, you may find Skyrim better or worse. Oblivion had a lot of pretty well written quests, with interesting or surprising conclusions, even if they had simplistic samey gameplay. Skyrim is better in action gameplay, though it is still extremely simplistic and samey compared to BG 2. It's still much better in terms of feel and than Oblivion. But in terms of quests, Skyrim is much worse, with virtually all quests being simple "clear this cave of people who have wronged me", though there are a handful of exceptions.
dale_glass 5y ago
I think the last interesting game in the genre is Morrowind. It has quite serious faults, mind you, and the AI isn't going to impress very much. But that's the game for interesting lore and world style. Skyrim is mostly a medieval world all over. Morrowind has places like: Balmora, which looks more or less normal, but is already definitely something else, what with the giant insects used for transport: https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/es/wiki/Balmora?file=Balmora_-_Morrowind.png https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/es/wiki/Balmora?file=Balmora... Vivec, made of huge, identical buildings: https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/es/wiki/Vivec_(ciudad)_(Morrowind)?file=Vivec_-_Morrowind.png https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/es/wiki/Vivec_(ciudad)_(Morr... Sadrith Mora, where wizards grow giant mushrooms to live in: https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/es/wiki/Distrito_Telvanni?file=SadrithMora.png https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/es/wiki/Distrito_Telvanni?fi... Morrowind is the last game that gives the clear feeling of that it's happening in its own universe with its own weird culture. And the main plot, which starts quite standard but by the end you're not sure if you're being fooled or not. It's best played under OpenMW, and maybe a few mods to fix some of the rough edges.

by jwmoz 5y ago

pverghese 5y ago

Skyrim was released in 2011. It was groundbreaking when it was released. A lot has changed in 10 years.

tsimionescu 5y ago

I have never heard anyone particularly praise Skyrim's story, and rarely even the lore. What I think people usually like about it is the mix - magical world, graphics, decently weighty combat, big monsters, people to talk to or murder or steal from etc. It doesn't excel at any one of these, but there is also nothing else outside the series offering the same combination. Perhaps RDR2 does improve on every aspect, but the massive difference in setting will still mean that both have a place - especially for this type of exploration game.

Xplune13 5y ago

You're comparing 2 games which were a generation of console apart and a lot of things happen between those 7-8 years. > People will say, ah yes but the story, the lore! But if I wanted that I'd read a book. That story and lore in the video game are exactly the reason I play video games i.e. video game can easily transport you into a world which you can see/hear/play-in instead of only imagining it in your mind. Books can never come anywhere close to that because of obvious restrictions of the medium and that was the reason, many (including me) were instantly captivated by the world of Skyrim. They successfully created a world full of atmosphere and lore along with the freedom of exploration and managed to do it excellently even compared to most of the games released now (and the thing is I also played Skyrim late in 2019, yet it is probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite game of all time). It's unfortunate that you didn't like it, so have fun with RDR2 (which is an excellent game with arguably the best storyline and characters in any video game till date).

billfruit 5y ago

May be using a controller makes it better. The keyboard and mouse controls of Skyrim seem non-intutive.

smokey_circles 5y ago

It's a Bethesda game. So it needs mods to truly be appreciated. Doubly so 11 years after release. I did this with Oblivion, glad I did cuz I love that game

BlueTemplar 5y ago
I haven't played Skyrim, but I found Oblivion so boring (though extremely pretty), coming from Baldur's Gate 2...
- tsimionescu 5y ago
  Depending on what you like, you may find Skyrim better or worse. Oblivion had a lot of pretty well written quests, with interesting or surprising conclusions, even if they had simplistic samey gameplay. Skyrim is better in action gameplay, though it is still extremely simplistic and samey compared to BG 2. It's still much better in terms of feel and than Oblivion. But in terms of quests, Skyrim is much worse, with virtually all quests being simple "clear this cave of people who have wronged me", though there are a handful of exceptions.

dale_glass 5y ago

I think the last interesting game in the genre is Morrowind. It has quite serious faults, mind you, and the AI isn't going to impress very much. But that's the game for interesting lore and world style. Skyrim is mostly a medieval world all over. Morrowind has places like: Balmora, which looks more or less normal, but is already definitely something else, what with the giant insects used for transport: https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/es/wiki/Balmora?file=Balmora_-_Morrowind.png https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/es/wiki/Balmora?file=Balmora... Vivec, made of huge, identical buildings: https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/es/wiki/Vivec_(ciudad)_(Morrowind)?file=Vivec_-_Morrowind.png https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/es/wiki/Vivec_(ciudad)_(Morr... Sadrith Mora, where wizards grow giant mushrooms to live in: https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/es/wiki/Distrito_Telvanni?file=SadrithMora.png https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/es/wiki/Distrito_Telvanni?fi... Morrowind is the last game that gives the clear feeling of that it's happening in its own universe with its own weird culture. And the main plot, which starts quite standard but by the end you're not sure if you're being fooled or not. It's best played under OpenMW, and maybe a few mods to fix some of the rough edges.