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what I don't understand is how even high profile tech people don't seem to be able to see through these lies. Reading the Wikipedia article "Criticism of Tesla,

what I don't understand is how even high profile tech people don't seem to be able to see through these lies. Reading the Wikipedia article "Criticism of Tesla, Inc." [0] is openly shocking (accounting fraud, insider trading, pressuring whistleblowers, endless lies and missed predictions among many others). Just today another crazy investigative article was published in the Wall Street Journal [1]. Sam Altman and others rally to defend Tesla [2]. Elon Musk is lionized and can do no harm. Criticizing Musk is like criticizing technology itself - a blasphemous act; the believers are undeterred. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Tesla,_Inc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Tesla,_Inc. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29947890 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29947890 [2] https://twitter.com/sama/status/1130913917864034304 https://twitter.com/sama/status/1130913917864034304

bhauer 5y ago
> Elon Musk is lionized and can do no harm. Criticizing Musk is like criticizing technology itself - a blasphemous act; the believers are undeterred. You must be delusional. Look at this thread, or any thread reporting on Tesla problems on Hacker News or Reddit's car forums. More than 95% of comments are critical of Tesla, many nearly hysterical in their criticism. Any defense, or even doubt of the overwhelmingly negative narrative, is met with accusations of being a "fanboy." Yes, there are forums that are vehemently pro-Tesla, but you're not on one right now. Stop pretending that you're in an area where "Elon Musk can do no harm."
- mxschumacher 5y ago
  on Twitter, Seeking Alpha, Youtube and the vast majority of traditional media reporting and in analyst reports of the large banks, I see overwhelming praise and support for Musk. It helps to weigh by views/clicks, I like Hacker News but assume that it's quite small in the greater scheme of publication platforms. The CNBC Cybertruck video has 32m+ hits, I invite you to go through the comment section [0] The stock price also tells a story about what most people think. I do concede that the tone has shifted recently, but I still don't feel that the full picture of Musk's deeds are known to most people. In my perception, he has achieved a religious status [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ZuKkbHdqM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ZuKkbHdqM

bhauer 5y ago

> Elon Musk is lionized and can do no harm. Criticizing Musk is like criticizing technology itself - a blasphemous act; the believers are undeterred. You must be delusional. Look at this thread, or any thread reporting on Tesla problems on Hacker News or Reddit's car forums. More than 95% of comments are critical of Tesla, many nearly hysterical in their criticism. Any defense, or even doubt of the overwhelmingly negative narrative, is met with accusations of being a "fanboy." Yes, there are forums that are vehemently pro-Tesla, but you're not on one right now. Stop pretending that you're in an area where "Elon Musk can do no harm."

mxschumacher 5y ago
on Twitter, Seeking Alpha, Youtube and the vast majority of traditional media reporting and in analyst reports of the large banks, I see overwhelming praise and support for Musk. It helps to weigh by views/clicks, I like Hacker News but assume that it's quite small in the greater scheme of publication platforms. The CNBC Cybertruck video has 32m+ hits, I invite you to go through the comment section [0] The stock price also tells a story about what most people think. I do concede that the tone has shifted recently, but I still don't feel that the full picture of Musk's deeds are known to most people. In my perception, he has achieved a religious status [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ZuKkbHdqM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ZuKkbHdqM