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The article jumps a bit fast from “drinking” and “getting drunk”, when there’s a line there that some of us try to not cross, social situations included. Other

The article jumps a bit fast from “drinking” and “getting drunk”, when there’s a line there that some of us try to not cross, social situations included. Otherwise yes, drinking alone, just like eating alone can be wildly enjoyable. I’d also warmly recommend to people who can do it to get mildly drunk once in a while (every year or two?). Do it with a trusting partner who stays clear, and check where’s the line and how it feels when you come close and then past it.

ineedasername 5y ago
>jumps a bit fast from “drinking” and “getting drunk” This is precisely what disturbed me. Enjoying a book, videogame, binge watching etc. while enjoying 1-2 drinks sipping a nice whiskey or beer, that's fine. (for men more than 2-3/day and more than 14/week total is classed as problem drinking. And the 2-3/14 is not a recommendation, it's more an absolute max) Occasionally exceeding this daily mark? Probably no big deal. (For values of occasionally that have months in between them and never include negative consequence as a result beyond "yep, gonna need some ibuprofen and a coffee") If you exceed 14 in a week even occasionally though, that seems a bit more problematic. Any addiction can be perniciously subtle, slowly creeping up where each tiny increment seems like no big deal. I'm guessing that a lot of people feel they can stop any time because along that incremental process, at some point they could have stopped, but when they reached beyond that point there was no sign marking the road to let them know it.
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zwaps 5y ago
I know very few people who can consistently drink alone, and drink very little. Maybe once or twice a year would be fine, but who does anything with such long frequency? Rather, I see people who normalize alcohol consumption on a pretty regular scale (2-3 times per week, each day per week, each weekend etc.) and of those, quite a few have a chance to increase their consumption to full on alcoholism IF there isn't some other reasonable constraint. Only drinking socially is such a constraint. I have seen too many people who say: "I am fine to have a shot of this, or a glas of that" when in reality they drink a lot more than that. Edit: That being said, the Hunter S. Thompson full on alcoholism lifestyle is a valid choice. Not everyone needs to be healthy and have a long, productive life or whatever. Some sort of nihilistic, self-destructive Zen philosophy can also be a net positive for the world, especially in the arts. I just personally think it's a choice that leads to a painful, sad and miserable end. The problem is - who really chooses this conciously? As long the author uses flowery language instead of just saying it's alcoholism as a lifestyle, I think something is amiss.

ineedasername 5y ago

>jumps a bit fast from “drinking” and “getting drunk” This is precisely what disturbed me. Enjoying a book, videogame, binge watching etc. while enjoying 1-2 drinks sipping a nice whiskey or beer, that's fine. (for men more than 2-3/day and more than 14/week total is classed as problem drinking. And the 2-3/14 is not a recommendation, it's more an absolute max) Occasionally exceeding this daily mark? Probably no big deal. (For values of occasionally that have months in between them and never include negative consequence as a result beyond "yep, gonna need some ibuprofen and a coffee") If you exceed 14 in a week even occasionally though, that seems a bit more problematic. Any addiction can be perniciously subtle, slowly creeping up where each tiny increment seems like no big deal. I'm guessing that a lot of people feel they can stop any time because along that incremental process, at some point they could have stopped, but when they reached beyond that point there was no sign marking the road to let them know it.

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zwaps 5y ago

I know very few people who can consistently drink alone, and drink very little. Maybe once or twice a year would be fine, but who does anything with such long frequency? Rather, I see people who normalize alcohol consumption on a pretty regular scale (2-3 times per week, each day per week, each weekend etc.) and of those, quite a few have a chance to increase their consumption to full on alcoholism IF there isn't some other reasonable constraint. Only drinking socially is such a constraint. I have seen too many people who say: "I am fine to have a shot of this, or a glas of that" when in reality they drink a lot more than that. Edit: That being said, the Hunter S. Thompson full on alcoholism lifestyle is a valid choice. Not everyone needs to be healthy and have a long, productive life or whatever. Some sort of nihilistic, self-destructive Zen philosophy can also be a net positive for the world, especially in the arts. I just personally think it's a choice that leads to a painful, sad and miserable end. The problem is - who really chooses this conciously? As long the author uses flowery language instead of just saying it's alcoholism as a lifestyle, I think something is amiss.