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Every year is the Year of Linux on the Desktop as more people move over.

by yepthatsreality 5y ago

pjmlp 5y ago
20 years for 1%, there is always hope I guess.
- tomnipotent 5y ago
  Steam Deck should at least double that.
  - NaturalPhallacy 5y ago
    Steam Deck isn't a desktop tho
    - 1_player 5y ago
      It is if you plug a monitor and peripherals. Runs a full KDE Plasma desktop.
      - pjmlp 5y ago
        Ah, then we can add Xbox to the amount of Windows desktops in use as well.
        1_player 5y ago
        The Xbox doesn't show a Windows desktop when you plug stuff in. Your constant trolling on Linux threads isn't appreciated.
        pjmlp 5y ago
        It is called experience from a failed Linux Desktop sales pitch. Been there done that. Ex-Linux zealot, whose digital trail even includes emails using M$ on the signature.
        1_player 5y ago
        You've gone from being one zealot to another. Oh well, whatever floats your boat.
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    The same way that counting Android phones as desktop does?
    - tomnipotent 5y ago
      Nothing alike. Steam Deck is running a full Linux distro under the hood, using existing repositories for updates, along with their own launcher (not DE).
      - pjmlp 5y ago
        On the contrary, XBox has the full disposal of Windows Store and UWP applications available to it. So no difference than using Windows 10S, 10X or whatever other UWP only variants Microsoft has released thus far.
        tomnipotent 5y ago
        UWP is nothing like it. Steam Deck is just running Linux with an existing DE, with some Valve-supported software and drivers.
        pjmlp 5y ago
        Indeed, XBox runs two versions of Windows via a type 1 hypervisor, one version is a minimal Windows kernel tailored for gaming, while the other supports the OS services required to have the UWP runtime running on the same hardware. Not at all the same thing. /s
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        tomnipotent 5y ago
        Indeed, Steam Deck runs one version of Linux (based on Arch) and enables Windows games through a non-virtualized compatibility layer (Proton, forked from Wine). Not at all the same thing.
- yepthatsreality 5y ago
  Only if you view the achievement as trying to win market share, but since Linux is FOSS there technically is no market to share with the commercially provided OSes. Market share only matters if you're trying to make money by creating the OS. Otherwise Year of Linux on the Desktop is a personal goal for the user so the usage is actually 100% when they switch over. 2021 was the year that Sally and Bob switched, 2022 will be the year Derrick, Anne and Louisa switch, etc.
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    Like many security exploits have proven, being FOSS matters very little when there aren't resources to keep it going. Derrick, Anne and Louisa won't switch if it doesn't support their shinny new laptop. By the way, I do use Linux since Slackware 2.0, winning Windows desktop market share was the original goal of The Year of Linux Desktop. Now one can to turn it around to make it mean a slightly different goal, so that after 30 years it can finally tick the box. Ironically the Year of Linux Desktop has been achieved indeed. Derrick, Anne and Louisa don't need to switch, because it already runs on a VM installed via Windows Store.
    - yepthatsreality 5y ago
      Twisting the definition to a more practical idea is better for progress, and will attract more users because it will seem like a more tangible goal. And I don’t count WSL as Linux on the desktop because it was already possible to run a VM of Linux on Windows and vice versa before it existed.
      - pjmlp 5y ago
        Twisting the definition is acknowledging having lost the original goal. Projects don't pivot just because it feels good doing so. Same applies to Windows on the server room, WSL did not became a standard option despite the years of Virtual Box and VMWare just because Microsoft though it would be nice to do so.
        5y ago

Every year is the Year of Linux on the Desktop as more people move over.

pjmlp 5y ago

20 years for 1%, there is always hope I guess.

tomnipotent 5y ago
Steam Deck should at least double that.
- NaturalPhallacy 5y ago
  Steam Deck isn't a desktop tho
  - 1_player 5y ago
    It is if you plug a monitor and peripherals. Runs a full KDE Plasma desktop.
    - pjmlp 5y ago
      Ah, then we can add Xbox to the amount of Windows desktops in use as well.
      - 1_player 5y ago
        The Xbox doesn't show a Windows desktop when you plug stuff in. Your constant trolling on Linux threads isn't appreciated.
        pjmlp 5y ago
        It is called experience from a failed Linux Desktop sales pitch. Been there done that. Ex-Linux zealot, whose digital trail even includes emails using M$ on the signature.
        1_player 5y ago
        You've gone from being one zealot to another. Oh well, whatever floats your boat.
- pjmlp 5y ago
  The same way that counting Android phones as desktop does?
  - tomnipotent 5y ago
    Nothing alike. Steam Deck is running a full Linux distro under the hood, using existing repositories for updates, along with their own launcher (not DE).
    - pjmlp 5y ago
      On the contrary, XBox has the full disposal of Windows Store and UWP applications available to it. So no difference than using Windows 10S, 10X or whatever other UWP only variants Microsoft has released thus far.
      - tomnipotent 5y ago
        UWP is nothing like it. Steam Deck is just running Linux with an existing DE, with some Valve-supported software and drivers.
        pjmlp 5y ago
        Indeed, XBox runs two versions of Windows via a type 1 hypervisor, one version is a minimal Windows kernel tailored for gaming, while the other supports the OS services required to have the UWP runtime running on the same hardware. Not at all the same thing. /s
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        tomnipotent 5y ago
        Indeed, Steam Deck runs one version of Linux (based on Arch) and enables Windows games through a non-virtualized compatibility layer (Proton, forked from Wine). Not at all the same thing.
yepthatsreality 5y ago
Only if you view the achievement as trying to win market share, but since Linux is FOSS there technically is no market to share with the commercially provided OSes. Market share only matters if you're trying to make money by creating the OS. Otherwise Year of Linux on the Desktop is a personal goal for the user so the usage is actually 100% when they switch over. 2021 was the year that Sally and Bob switched, 2022 will be the year Derrick, Anne and Louisa switch, etc.
- pjmlp 5y ago
  Like many security exploits have proven, being FOSS matters very little when there aren't resources to keep it going. Derrick, Anne and Louisa won't switch if it doesn't support their shinny new laptop. By the way, I do use Linux since Slackware 2.0, winning Windows desktop market share was the original goal of The Year of Linux Desktop. Now one can to turn it around to make it mean a slightly different goal, so that after 30 years it can finally tick the box. Ironically the Year of Linux Desktop has been achieved indeed. Derrick, Anne and Louisa don't need to switch, because it already runs on a VM installed via Windows Store.
  - yepthatsreality 5y ago
    Twisting the definition to a more practical idea is better for progress, and will attract more users because it will seem like a more tangible goal. And I don’t count WSL as Linux on the desktop because it was already possible to run a VM of Linux on Windows and vice versa before it existed.
    - pjmlp 5y ago
      Twisting the definition is acknowledging having lost the original goal. Projects don't pivot just because it feels good doing so. Same applies to Windows on the server room, WSL did not became a standard option despite the years of Virtual Box and VMWare just because Microsoft though it would be nice to do so.
      - 5y ago