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>The mythos of the nuclear family being paramount is fully embedded in the culture, destroying the older concept of a broader family and community taking part i

by YATA0 5y ago

>The mythos of the nuclear family being paramount is fully embedded in the culture, destroying the older concept of a broader family and community taking part in the rearing of the next generation and just general socialization. It's not a "mythos", it's a fact that children raised in nuclear families have much better outcomes than those who are not [0]. Practically every sociological study confirms this. Black children are the least likely to be raised in nuclear families in the US, and aligned with the study, are the most likely to suffer from health and mental/emotional/sociological issues. It's recently become some weird leftist/neo-marxist talking point to subvert the "Western proscribed nuclear family". BLM had to remove this talking point from their website after it was widely criticized [1]. [0] http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_10/sr10_246.pdf http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_10/sr10_246.pdf [1] https://news.yahoo.com/black-lives-matter-removes-language-185621063.html https://news.yahoo.com/black-lives-matter-removes-language-1...

rjbwork 5y ago
We're not talking about the nuclear family in opposition to single parents or blended families. We're talking about it in opposition to extended and clan families. Which is why I explicitly mentioned extended ("broader") families and communities. Obviously having a mom and a dad is good. Come on dude, use context clues.
- YATA0 5y ago
  >We're talking about it in opposition to extended and clan families. Which are specifically covered in the CDC report that I listed above. "Children living in blended (i.e., stepparent), cohabiting, unmarried biological or adoptive, extended, and other families were generally disadvantaged relative to children in nuclear families, and were, for the most part, comparable to children living in single-parent families regarding most health status and access to care measures." > Which is why I explicitly mentioned extended ("broader") families and communities. Those "broader" families and communities have unfortunately been failing Black Americans for generations. >Come on dude, use context clues. Come on dude, use reading comprehension. At least you admitted here for all to see that you'd rather be a virtue signaler over being a data driven adult.
  - rjbwork 5y ago
    Again, I was not opposing the nuclear family to families without mothers and fathers. This is a misreading of what I am saying and clearly you are just engaging in the discussion to grind your axe about single parent households in black communities. As I said, I agree that having a mom and dad is good. It produces better outcomes than having one or neither. Go grind your axe elsewhere.
  - eli_gottlieb 5y ago
    Kids benefit from having uncles, aunts, cousins, and grandparents around as well as just their mom and dad. God knows I did!
    - mbg721 5y ago
      It shouldn't be either-A-or-B; there are plenty of families whose day-to-day operation is as a nuclear family, but who have regular (more than once-a-week) contact with extended relatives. I don't think that's what this is describing; an "extended" family here is where the group of people who go to sleep every night and wake up every morning in the same house are more than just mom and dad and the kids.

by YATA0 5y ago

rjbwork 5y ago

We're not talking about the nuclear family in opposition to single parents or blended families. We're talking about it in opposition to extended and clan families. Which is why I explicitly mentioned extended ("broader") families and communities. Obviously having a mom and a dad is good. Come on dude, use context clues.

YATA0 5y ago
>We're talking about it in opposition to extended and clan families. Which are specifically covered in the CDC report that I listed above. "Children living in blended (i.e., stepparent), cohabiting, unmarried biological or adoptive, extended, and other families were generally disadvantaged relative to children in nuclear families, and were, for the most part, comparable to children living in single-parent families regarding most health status and access to care measures." > Which is why I explicitly mentioned extended ("broader") families and communities. Those "broader" families and communities have unfortunately been failing Black Americans for generations. >Come on dude, use context clues. Come on dude, use reading comprehension. At least you admitted here for all to see that you'd rather be a virtue signaler over being a data driven adult.
- rjbwork 5y ago
  Again, I was not opposing the nuclear family to families without mothers and fathers. This is a misreading of what I am saying and clearly you are just engaging in the discussion to grind your axe about single parent households in black communities. As I said, I agree that having a mom and dad is good. It produces better outcomes than having one or neither. Go grind your axe elsewhere.
- eli_gottlieb 5y ago
  Kids benefit from having uncles, aunts, cousins, and grandparents around as well as just their mom and dad. God knows I did!
  - mbg721 5y ago
    It shouldn't be either-A-or-B; there are plenty of families whose day-to-day operation is as a nuclear family, but who have regular (more than once-a-week) contact with extended relatives. I don't think that's what this is describing; an "extended" family here is where the group of people who go to sleep every night and wake up every morning in the same house are more than just mom and dad and the kids.