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That's really not what it says. The essay is very explicit about calling Trumpism a form of white identity politics. (That's why the title is terrible: It diss

That's really not what it says. The essay is very explicit about calling Trumpism a form of white identity politics. (That's why the title is terrible: It dissuades anyone left of Joe Biden from reading.)

krapp 5y ago
Trumpism is white identity politics. That Trump's base is rural white voters who feel alienated and disenfranchised by the loss of white demographic majority and the encroachment of multiculturalism into their communities is a thesis they themselves have put forth. This isn't even controversial, the relationship between Trumpist populism and the alt-right/white supremacist communities has been thoroughly discussed and well documented at this point. Note that the presence of non-white Trump supporters doesn't invalidate the premise. No one is claiming Trumpism is only and exclusively white identity politics, but that is certainly a core motivating factor behind the movement.
- AzzieElbab 5y ago
  - “ Trumpism is white identity politics” - What happens if you replace the word “white” with say non-college educated working people?
  - N1H1L 5y ago
    > non-college educated working people? Lots of Hispanics and Blacks in that group, who surprisingly aren't that keen on Trump
    - AzzieElbab 5y ago
      Not entirely true. Larger percentage of Hispanics and Blacks voted for Trump than any other republican presidential candidate.
    - deleted 5y ago
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    - e4e78a06 5y ago
      Hispanics are not a homogenous group like you portray them to be. For example Republicans won Hispanics in Virginia this year [1]. There is a balance between more conservative leaning Hispanics from Central/South America, wealthier 3rd+ generation Hispanics who lean conservative, and more liberal recent Mexican demographics. All evidence from the past 2 elections in 2020 and 2021 indicate that Hispanics as a whole are shifting towards the GOP (even if Democrats currently have a solid majority among Hispanics as a whole). [1]: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/04/latino-poll-virginia-youngkin-mcauliffe-519425 https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/04/latino-poll-virgini...
      - retinaros 5y ago
        for democrats blacks or hispanics are like a hivemind. and for the ones that publicly state they are republican, they will call them uncle tom and ostracise them. this is the real racism ive seen in usa more so than the white identitarian politics
    - oh_sigh 5y ago
      Trump got 30% of the Latino vote in 2020, more than republicans get historically.
      - wahnfrieden 5y ago
        so you agree that most are not keen
      - N1H1L 5y ago
        That's still a huge disparity.

krapp 5y ago

Trumpism is white identity politics. That Trump's base is rural white voters who feel alienated and disenfranchised by the loss of white demographic majority and the encroachment of multiculturalism into their communities is a thesis they themselves have put forth. This isn't even controversial, the relationship between Trumpist populism and the alt-right/white supremacist communities has been thoroughly discussed and well documented at this point. Note that the presence of non-white Trump supporters doesn't invalidate the premise. No one is claiming Trumpism is only and exclusively white identity politics, but that is certainly a core motivating factor behind the movement.

AzzieElbab 5y ago
- “ Trumpism is white identity politics” - What happens if you replace the word “white” with say non-college educated working people?
- N1H1L 5y ago
  > non-college educated working people? Lots of Hispanics and Blacks in that group, who surprisingly aren't that keen on Trump
  - AzzieElbab 5y ago
    Not entirely true. Larger percentage of Hispanics and Blacks voted for Trump than any other republican presidential candidate.
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - e4e78a06 5y ago
    Hispanics are not a homogenous group like you portray them to be. For example Republicans won Hispanics in Virginia this year [1]. There is a balance between more conservative leaning Hispanics from Central/South America, wealthier 3rd+ generation Hispanics who lean conservative, and more liberal recent Mexican demographics. All evidence from the past 2 elections in 2020 and 2021 indicate that Hispanics as a whole are shifting towards the GOP (even if Democrats currently have a solid majority among Hispanics as a whole). [1]: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/04/latino-poll-virginia-youngkin-mcauliffe-519425 https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/04/latino-poll-virgini...
    - retinaros 5y ago
      for democrats blacks or hispanics are like a hivemind. and for the ones that publicly state they are republican, they will call them uncle tom and ostracise them. this is the real racism ive seen in usa more so than the white identitarian politics
  - oh_sigh 5y ago
    Trump got 30% of the Latino vote in 2020, more than republicans get historically.
    - wahnfrieden 5y ago
      so you agree that most are not keen
    - N1H1L 5y ago
      That's still a huge disparity.