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I was kind of disappointed to be honest. I was expecting either weirder ideas, or at least defenses of past policies deemed atrocities today, like "the Holodom

I was kind of disappointed to be honest. I was expecting either weirder ideas, or at least defenses of past policies deemed atrocities today, like "the Holodomor was justified", or we should do more research into performance enhancing implants or drugs. Here's something that might actually be heretical: Jesus died for nothing, He wasn't intended as some sort of sacrifice, we killed Him before He could complete His work. Now we're damned forever, with no hope of salvation from a justifiably merciless God. If you really want to see some shit that will likely ruin your day, boot up Wargame: Red Dragon and read General chat. There's some truly awful and weird takes in there, last I played. Instead we mostly got mainstream 2022 conservatism. I mean there's a nugget of good idea in there, I just really wish it was expressed better before tribal chants kicked in.

rhn_mk1 5y ago
You made me curious, what's so special about "Wargame: Red Dragon"? Won't you get the same chats as in any other online game for some reason?
- twoquestions 5y ago
  To be honest I haven't the slightest idea. If forced to guess, I'd say it was the quasi-realistic wargame simulation of a potential conflict within living memory awakens violent nationalist rhetoric in people? Either way, it's very much not the same as the "your mother" type insults you see in a stereotypical Call of Duty match, it's a whole different dimension of shitposting. Paradox grand strategy games also have this effect, but that community is better about shutting down their edgelords.
krapp 5y ago
Every now and then we get a thread here asking people for their most controversial or unorthodox beliefs, and it's almost entirely conservatives thinking their belief in only two genders or racial realism is somehow radical. Even most conspiracy theorists are tediously mainstream - ranting about globalist elites and Marxists and how COVID was engineered and everything is manufactured consent blah blah blah. Many people believe themselves to be more radical and iconoclastic than they are because those beliefs tend to be nurtured in reality bubbles which assume the rest of the world to be far more rigidly dogmatic than it is.
- AnimalMuppet 5y ago
  I think what they're saying is that some ideas have fallen so far out of favor that believing them is now radical. (Not philosophically radical or intellectually radical, but socially radical.)

rhn_mk1 5y ago

You made me curious, what's so special about "Wargame: Red Dragon"? Won't you get the same chats as in any other online game for some reason?

twoquestions 5y ago
To be honest I haven't the slightest idea. If forced to guess, I'd say it was the quasi-realistic wargame simulation of a potential conflict within living memory awakens violent nationalist rhetoric in people? Either way, it's very much not the same as the "your mother" type insults you see in a stereotypical Call of Duty match, it's a whole different dimension of shitposting. Paradox grand strategy games also have this effect, but that community is better about shutting down their edgelords.

krapp 5y ago

Every now and then we get a thread here asking people for their most controversial or unorthodox beliefs, and it's almost entirely conservatives thinking their belief in only two genders or racial realism is somehow radical. Even most conspiracy theorists are tediously mainstream - ranting about globalist elites and Marxists and how COVID was engineered and everything is manufactured consent blah blah blah. Many people believe themselves to be more radical and iconoclastic than they are because those beliefs tend to be nurtured in reality bubbles which assume the rest of the world to be far more rigidly dogmatic than it is.

AnimalMuppet 5y ago
I think what they're saying is that some ideas have fallen so far out of favor that believing them is now radical. (Not philosophically radical or intellectually radical, but socially radical.)