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I wholeheartedly agree that people can't agree on what "unit test" means precisely, either (even though I think your specific examples are a bit disingenuous).

I wholeheartedly agree that people can't agree on what "unit test" means precisely, either (even though I think your specific examples are a bit disingenuous). In particular, classical and London-school / mockist TDD have rather different definitions of it. That's why it's important to have a well-rounded test strategy with different types of tests that have different purposes, instead of using some blanket approaches.

pydry 5y ago
How on earth are they disingenuous?
- Tainnor 5y ago
  I've never heard anyone call a test for a whole application a "unit test".
  - pydry 5y ago
    It happened to me once on hacker news. His point that was any size could be considered a "unit". Which is true, I suppose. Also for some small command line applications.