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Or they could just post their salaries on levels.fyi, which has had this information for years on thousands of companies.

pc86 5y ago
But then the organizers of this couldn't release it on Twitter 6 months from now for street cred, and have all the personal data to boot. A cynical take, for sure, but I can't think of any other reason why anyone would do this over something like you mentioned.
- MattGaiser 5y ago
  I assume that they want very specific salary information, i.e. what Bob makes on Integrations vs what Susan also makes on Integrations vs just what people seem to make at SDE II.
  - pc86 5y ago
    I think the more important question is whether comparing Bob to Susan (or Sam, or whomever) is helpful. I would argue it's not, that it's even unhelpful, unless you know a whole hell of a lot about how Bob and Susan got to where they are right now. Did they have competing offers when they were hired? Did they negotiate a [non-]discretionary bonus into their package? Did they negotiate more PTO or profit-sharing in the form of a non-discretionary 401k contribution? These are all things that won't be immediately obvious but will affect their individual numbers. In aggregate, these aberrations get smoothed out. I don't see any benefit in comparing individuals to each other, but there's a lot of benefit in comparing individual to the average.
    - MattGaiser 5y ago
      But that is what a lot of these initiatives want. They want to be able to say "Bob got X, so I should get X."
hammock 5y ago
Doesn't levels.fyi focus on engineering salaries? What type of employees is hellofresh made of?
- nexuist 5y ago
  You can check their careers page: https://careers.hellofresh.com/global/en https://careers.hellofresh.com/global/en The only non-tech positions are supply chain management, finance, HR, marketing, sales. Basically the same as any other tech company.
  - hammock 5y ago
    That's crazy. I would have thought they have people buying food, designing menus, cooking the food, creatives, analytics, customer service, etc. Maybe that is counted under SCM? Edit: it looks like they DO have these types of positions, and they dominate the open roles. Software engineers is one of the smaller categories. Thanks for the downvote, whoever.
    - nexuist 5y ago
      They do have plenty of supply chain management etc. positions, but look at the categories instead of the numbers. Apple is a tech company and not a factory company despite contracting tens of thousands of factory workers to build their products. Hello Fresh is also a tech company despite hiring hundreds of people working on menus etc.
      - hammock 5y ago
        I don't really get the comparison. Apple's end product is hardware and software (technology). Hello fresh's end product is meal kits.
- mulmen 5y ago
  levels.fyi only focuses on software developers and their managers. No other engineering roles seem to have sufficient data to be useful.

pc86 5y ago

But then the organizers of this couldn't release it on Twitter 6 months from now for street cred, and have all the personal data to boot. A cynical take, for sure, but I can't think of any other reason why anyone would do this over something like you mentioned.

MattGaiser 5y ago
I assume that they want very specific salary information, i.e. what Bob makes on Integrations vs what Susan also makes on Integrations vs just what people seem to make at SDE II.
- pc86 5y ago
  I think the more important question is whether comparing Bob to Susan (or Sam, or whomever) is helpful. I would argue it's not, that it's even unhelpful, unless you know a whole hell of a lot about how Bob and Susan got to where they are right now. Did they have competing offers when they were hired? Did they negotiate a [non-]discretionary bonus into their package? Did they negotiate more PTO or profit-sharing in the form of a non-discretionary 401k contribution? These are all things that won't be immediately obvious but will affect their individual numbers. In aggregate, these aberrations get smoothed out. I don't see any benefit in comparing individuals to each other, but there's a lot of benefit in comparing individual to the average.
  - MattGaiser 5y ago
    But that is what a lot of these initiatives want. They want to be able to say "Bob got X, so I should get X."

hammock 5y ago

Doesn't levels.fyi focus on engineering salaries? What type of employees is hellofresh made of?

nexuist 5y ago
You can check their careers page: https://careers.hellofresh.com/global/en https://careers.hellofresh.com/global/en The only non-tech positions are supply chain management, finance, HR, marketing, sales. Basically the same as any other tech company.
- hammock 5y ago
  That's crazy. I would have thought they have people buying food, designing menus, cooking the food, creatives, analytics, customer service, etc. Maybe that is counted under SCM? Edit: it looks like they DO have these types of positions, and they dominate the open roles. Software engineers is one of the smaller categories. Thanks for the downvote, whoever.
  - nexuist 5y ago
    They do have plenty of supply chain management etc. positions, but look at the categories instead of the numbers. Apple is a tech company and not a factory company despite contracting tens of thousands of factory workers to build their products. Hello Fresh is also a tech company despite hiring hundreds of people working on menus etc.
    - hammock 5y ago
      I don't really get the comparison. Apple's end product is hardware and software (technology). Hello fresh's end product is meal kits.
mulmen 5y ago
levels.fyi only focuses on software developers and their managers. No other engineering roles seem to have sufficient data to be useful.