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I would love to see the evidence you used to reach those conclusions, care to share it?

by JaimeThompson 5y ago

breitling 5y ago
I could see what they are trying to say because I hear the same thing all around me. I'm in Ontario, Canada. There are regions with 90% vaccinations rate (Toronto) and still the hospitals are full and we are in lockdown. As laymen, people do question whether anyone knows what they're doing. Toronto has been one of the most compliant cities for masking, social distancing, and vaccines. Even then we are not spared.
- amanaplanacanal 5y ago
  It appears that the techniques everybody was using to slow the spread of the original virus aren’t working as well for omicron. That doesn’t mean they weren’t a good idea for the original strain.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  What should give you pause: imagine what it could have been like without all those measures. Because they do work, and if in spite of that you have a pretty bad disaster on your hand that translates into being spared from a much worse one.
bsaul 5y ago
I see everywhere epidemiologist and doctors calling for « humility » with covid, since it has shown to be « full of surprises ». Which, to me, looks like another way of saying they got wrong numerous times in the past on how to manage the epidemic. The fact is, we’ve never had (at least in europe) that many vaccinated people, that many sanitary measures (except for full lockdowns at the very beginning), and yet that many number of cases, as well as that many number of people in hospitals (from delta, since omikron looks much weaker, thanks to nature). In that context, trying to blame JR for trying to give speech to other medical experts, and have a different opinion on that topic, is really unfair. This should actually be the stance most scientists should take : what did we do wrong, what did we miss, was there something we could have done differently ?

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I would love to see the evidence you used to reach those conclusions, care to share it?

by JaimeThompson 5y ago

I would love to see the evidence you used to reach those conclusions, care to share it?

breitling 5y ago
I could see what they are trying to say because I hear the same thing all around me. I'm in Ontario, Canada. There are regions with 90% vaccinations rate (Toronto) and still the hospitals are full and we are in lockdown. As laymen, people do question whether anyone knows what they're doing. Toronto has been one of the most compliant cities for masking, social distancing, and vaccines. Even then we are not spared.
- amanaplanacanal 5y ago
  It appears that the techniques everybody was using to slow the spread of the original virus aren’t working as well for omicron. That doesn’t mean they weren’t a good idea for the original strain.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  What should give you pause: imagine what it could have been like without all those measures. Because they do work, and if in spite of that you have a pretty bad disaster on your hand that translates into being spared from a much worse one.
bsaul 5y ago
I see everywhere epidemiologist and doctors calling for « humility » with covid, since it has shown to be « full of surprises ». Which, to me, looks like another way of saying they got wrong numerous times in the past on how to manage the epidemic. The fact is, we’ve never had (at least in europe) that many vaccinated people, that many sanitary measures (except for full lockdowns at the very beginning), and yet that many number of cases, as well as that many number of people in hospitals (from delta, since omikron looks much weaker, thanks to nature). In that context, trying to blame JR for trying to give speech to other medical experts, and have a different opinion on that topic, is really unfair. This should actually be the stance most scientists should take : what did we do wrong, what did we miss, was there something we could have done differently ?