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There’s a pretty clear (and intentionally vague) definition used by the greater 7DRL community. https://blog.roguetemple.com/what-is-a-traditional-roguelike/ h

There’s a pretty clear (and intentionally vague) definition used by the greater 7DRL community. https://blog.roguetemple.com/what-is-a-traditional-roguelike/ https://blog.roguetemple.com/what-is-a-traditional-roguelike... 1. Permanent consequences 2. Character centric 3. Procedural content 4. Turn-based Check out some of the entries from past years, along with their “how roguelike is it?” scoring. https://itch.io/jam/7drl-challenge-2021 https://itch.io/jam/7drl-challenge-2021

bhaak 5y ago
Your link discusses classic or traditional roguelikes. OP's blog post is from 10 years so I can't blame them. But today "Roguelike" is usually something slightly different. A roguelike these days is a game that has (at least some) procedurally generated content and permadeath without meta progression. A roguelike purist would call these roguelites.
- morelisp 5y ago
  I would be more forgiving to hand over the term "roguelike" to roguelites and other PGC-based games if I had a term to replace it. The problem is - what's a better term than "roguelike" to mean "more like Rogue than the other things which are (sometimes only very slightly) like Rogue"?
  - bhaak 5y ago
    What's wrong with "classical roguelike" or "traditional roguelike"? Definitions change over time, often you can't do anything about that. But I would expect those two not to deviate too much in the future (hopefully).
    - morelisp 5y ago
      "Classical roguelike" usually means "direct descendent of Hack/Angband/Larn/Moria" (Rogue itself produced very few descendents, I think). "Traditional" excludes several interesting categories which are uncontroversially roguelikes: games not part of the current 'body of practice' like Dungeon Hack; radically different PCG approaches like 868-HACK; and the Japanese design lineage in e.g. Shiren or Baroque which uses a very different approach to progression dynamics than today's roguelites.

bhaak 5y ago

Your link discusses classic or traditional roguelikes. OP's blog post is from 10 years so I can't blame them. But today "Roguelike" is usually something slightly different. A roguelike these days is a game that has (at least some) procedurally generated content and permadeath without meta progression. A roguelike purist would call these roguelites.

morelisp 5y ago
I would be more forgiving to hand over the term "roguelike" to roguelites and other PGC-based games if I had a term to replace it. The problem is - what's a better term than "roguelike" to mean "more like Rogue than the other things which are (sometimes only very slightly) like Rogue"?
- bhaak 5y ago
  What's wrong with "classical roguelike" or "traditional roguelike"? Definitions change over time, often you can't do anything about that. But I would expect those two not to deviate too much in the future (hopefully).
  - morelisp 5y ago
    "Classical roguelike" usually means "direct descendent of Hack/Angband/Larn/Moria" (Rogue itself produced very few descendents, I think). "Traditional" excludes several interesting categories which are uncontroversially roguelikes: games not part of the current 'body of practice' like Dungeon Hack; radically different PCG approaches like 868-HACK; and the Japanese design lineage in e.g. Shiren or Baroque which uses a very different approach to progression dynamics than today's roguelites.