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Nice, so they going to lower the subscription prices now that they don't need to pay the 30% cut from Apple?

by wdb 5y ago

the_other 5y ago
Not if you believe the complaints that 30% is too much “Apple Tax”. No, they’ll keep the price the same and use the profit to improve their apps and business model. (Can you see my crossed fingers?)
bradly 5y ago
They have now seen consumers are willing to pay the higher price with the 30%, so it would seem unlikely to me.
cute_boi 5y ago
"The ruling allows dating app developers to avoid the commission fee between 15 to 30 percent Apple charges. " Looks like everybody gangsta till regulator steps in.
- gonzo41 5y ago
  Apple is/was just making hay whilst the sun shined. I know many on this site would disagree, but regulation generally is for everyone's benefit. Just like a healthy progressive taxation system.
  - mlindner 5y ago
    Most regulations I have been directly impacted by that have happened since I was born have made my life harder or worse in some way, so I strongly disagree. Two easy examples: Obama passing health care regulations greatly increased my health insurance costs. EPA mandating new regulations on "safety" of gas cans has made gas cans nearly unusable with dangerous splashing of gasoline when using them.
    - jkaplowitz 5y ago
      Obamacare's impacts varied. In NY, Obamacare at least temporarily lowered healthcare premiums despite being a new regulation. Most of those rules were already in place within NY state law, but the introduction of the employer and individual mandates added many healthy people to the risk pool, fixing a pre-existing adverse selection problem and therefore lowering premiums. The Obamacare risk corridor provisions also helped. I only say "at least temporarily" lowering premiums to reflect subsequent events, like the removal of the individual mandate and the risk corridor, and the general increase in healthcare costs over time.
    - maccard 5y ago
      I can point to dozens of regulations in the EU that have made my life better as a resident of an EU country. Some very easy examples off the top of my head that I have benefitted from; no roaming charges between EU countries, PDO regulations, EURO standards for car fuel, Freedom of movement in the EU (and pet passports), Flight compensation and working time directive. Sure I can pick some out that suck, but that doesn't mean that they are all bad; overwhelmingly they are positive changes.
    - lotsofpulp 5y ago
      >Two easy examples: >Obama passing health care regulations greatly increased my health insurance costs. This is called paying into a system to support others in society who suffer healthcare events. Sucks if you are healthy and never need healthcare, nice for when you get hit with a NICU baby, cancer, heart attack, or any other healthcare event where you need hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars of healthcare. ACA explicitly transfers wealth from the young and/or health to the old and/or sick. There is no other way to provide more healthcare to more people, at current levels of healthcare supply. Of course, letting people go without healthcare if they cannot afford it is also a perfectly valid position.
      - mlindner 5y ago
        I maintain my own health and I shouldn't be paying for those who choose not to. That's a bankrupt system of responsibility.
axlee 5y ago
It's already the case: if you buy your subscription on tinder.com rather than within the app itself, it is noticeably cheaper.
echelon 5y ago
Not necessarily. Now smaller software shops can now make a healthy margin to pay their engineers and grow their product. This will result in higher quality software and services.
olliej 5y ago
No. The commission charged by apple is not a payment processing fee. It's a platform licensing fee, as has been common practice in the industry since day 1. What this means is that the companies are allowed to use a separate company to charge users, and now they are required to manage refunds, etc themselves in line with local laws and the apple license. Now they also have to manually track everything and pay apple the appropriate 15-30% licensing fee.

Nice, so they going to lower the subscription prices now that they don't need to pay the 30% cut from Apple?

by wdb 5y ago

Nice, so they going to lower the subscription prices now that they don't need to pay the 30% cut from Apple?

Not if you believe the complaints that 30% is too much “Apple Tax”. No, they’ll keep the price the same and use the profit to improve their apps and business model. (Can you see my crossed fingers?)

bradly 5y ago

They have now seen consumers are willing to pay the higher price with the 30%, so it would seem unlikely to me.

cute_boi 5y ago

"The ruling allows dating app developers to avoid the commission fee between 15 to 30 percent Apple charges. " Looks like everybody gangsta till regulator steps in.

gonzo41 5y ago
Apple is/was just making hay whilst the sun shined. I know many on this site would disagree, but regulation generally is for everyone's benefit. Just like a healthy progressive taxation system.
- mlindner 5y ago
  Most regulations I have been directly impacted by that have happened since I was born have made my life harder or worse in some way, so I strongly disagree. Two easy examples: Obama passing health care regulations greatly increased my health insurance costs. EPA mandating new regulations on "safety" of gas cans has made gas cans nearly unusable with dangerous splashing of gasoline when using them.
  - jkaplowitz 5y ago
    Obamacare's impacts varied. In NY, Obamacare at least temporarily lowered healthcare premiums despite being a new regulation. Most of those rules were already in place within NY state law, but the introduction of the employer and individual mandates added many healthy people to the risk pool, fixing a pre-existing adverse selection problem and therefore lowering premiums. The Obamacare risk corridor provisions also helped. I only say "at least temporarily" lowering premiums to reflect subsequent events, like the removal of the individual mandate and the risk corridor, and the general increase in healthcare costs over time.
  - maccard 5y ago
    I can point to dozens of regulations in the EU that have made my life better as a resident of an EU country. Some very easy examples off the top of my head that I have benefitted from; no roaming charges between EU countries, PDO regulations, EURO standards for car fuel, Freedom of movement in the EU (and pet passports), Flight compensation and working time directive. Sure I can pick some out that suck, but that doesn't mean that they are all bad; overwhelmingly they are positive changes.
  - lotsofpulp 5y ago
    >Two easy examples: >Obama passing health care regulations greatly increased my health insurance costs. This is called paying into a system to support others in society who suffer healthcare events. Sucks if you are healthy and never need healthcare, nice for when you get hit with a NICU baby, cancer, heart attack, or any other healthcare event where you need hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars of healthcare. ACA explicitly transfers wealth from the young and/or health to the old and/or sick. There is no other way to provide more healthcare to more people, at current levels of healthcare supply. Of course, letting people go without healthcare if they cannot afford it is also a perfectly valid position.
    - mlindner 5y ago
      I maintain my own health and I shouldn't be paying for those who choose not to. That's a bankrupt system of responsibility.

axlee 5y ago

It's already the case: if you buy your subscription on tinder.com rather than within the app itself, it is noticeably cheaper.

echelon 5y ago

Not necessarily. Now smaller software shops can now make a healthy margin to pay their engineers and grow their product. This will result in higher quality software and services.

olliej 5y ago

No. The commission charged by apple is not a payment processing fee. It's a platform licensing fee, as has been common practice in the industry since day 1. What this means is that the companies are allowed to use a separate company to charge users, and now they are required to manage refunds, etc themselves in line with local laws and the apple license. Now they also have to manually track everything and pay apple the appropriate 15-30% licensing fee.