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Most people don't live in a dense large city. It is telling you equate those people with living in a third world. Country though. Gas blows induction out of t

Most people don't live in a dense large city. It is telling you equate those people with living in a third world. Country though. Gas blows induction out of the water for actual cooking, not just reheating stuff

maxwell86 5y ago
> Most people don't live in a dense large city. Actually, most of the world population (>50%, ~4 billion people) lives in dense urban areas since ~2007: https://ourworldindata.org/urbanization https://ourworldindata.org/urbanization The current trend is expected to continue to increase.
jonnycomputer 5y ago
Well, urban vs rural in the United States -- it certainly does suggest most people live in urban. Not sure what you mean by "dense" urban though. https://www.statista.com/statistics/985183/size-urban-rural-population-us/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/985183/size-urban-rural-... As one guy put it, there are more Republicans living in Orange County than there are in the entire state of Mississippi.
KennyBlanken 5y ago
My medium-end bought-off-craigslist induction cooktop made by GE is faster and more controllable than either the stove at a friend's house which is an old-school huge commercial-range-style gas stove, or my parent's stove which is a newer but high-end gas range. I've never seen a stove bring 8 qt of water to boil so quickly.
occz 5y ago
Spoken like someone who has never used an induction burner in their entire life. I've used both and induction clearly comes out on top, by a huge margin. As for home heating with gas: wrong again - heat pumps are the superior method, and come with the benefits of being air conditioners as well.
- oxymoran 5y ago
  Heat pumps only work on their own in mild climates. Cold climates still require furnace in conjunction with the heat pump. Good luck convincing anyone in the northern United States of getting rid of their furnace or hot water heater. Spouting this sort of head-in-the-clouds, wrong information only weakens your cause. “WHERE DO HEAT PUMPS WORK BEST? Heat pumps are more common in milder climates, where the temperature does not typically drop below freezing. In colder regions, *they can also be combined with furnaces*for energy-efficient heating on all but the coldest days. When the temperature outside drops too low for the heat pump to operate effectively, the system will instead use the furnace to generate heat. This kind of system is often called a dual fuel system – it is very energy efficient and cost effective.” https://www.carrier.com/residential/en/us/products/heat-pumps/what-is-a-heat-pump-how-does-it-work/ https://www.carrier.com/residential/en/us/products/heat-pump...
  - occz 5y ago
    Gas is still an inferior solution in those cases - wood pellets are better for those climates. Better yet, a combination of heat pumps and wood pellet furnaces gives you the best of both worlds - very energy-efficient heating while the temperature is still not too far below freezing (iirc heat pumps still beat alternatives as far down as negative 10-15 C), and wood pellets to handle the most extreme colds of the year. There's also the alternative of putting the outlet of the heat pump below ground, where the temperature never gets that far below zero. It's entirely incorrect to say that heat pumps only work in mild climates. I live in a country where we do not have a mild climate, and heat pumps are becoming more popular each day, owing to their technological superiority.
- aniforprez 5y ago
  I've used both. I like gas far more because I have better control over the temperature of what I'm making. This is pretty important when frying, boiling milk, making flat foods like dosa etc. The on-and-off method induction uses to control temperature is not ideal for this. I like induction for cooking when I need to boil or slow cook for a decent amount of time. Just set a timer and let it heat. Used an induction for 3 years and didn't regret getting a gas one instead I'm also not a fan of using buttons and touch controls on something like this when cooking. It's distracting and cumbersome. Lowering temperature requires multiple button presses when gas just lets me turn a knob to instantly put it on low

maxwell86 5y ago

> Most people don't live in a dense large city. Actually, most of the world population (>50%, ~4 billion people) lives in dense urban areas since ~2007: https://ourworldindata.org/urbanization https://ourworldindata.org/urbanization The current trend is expected to continue to increase.

jonnycomputer 5y ago

Well, urban vs rural in the United States -- it certainly does suggest most people live in urban. Not sure what you mean by "dense" urban though. https://www.statista.com/statistics/985183/size-urban-rural-population-us/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/985183/size-urban-rural-... As one guy put it, there are more Republicans living in Orange County than there are in the entire state of Mississippi.

KennyBlanken 5y ago

My medium-end bought-off-craigslist induction cooktop made by GE is faster and more controllable than either the stove at a friend's house which is an old-school huge commercial-range-style gas stove, or my parent's stove which is a newer but high-end gas range. I've never seen a stove bring 8 qt of water to boil so quickly.

occz 5y ago

Spoken like someone who has never used an induction burner in their entire life. I've used both and induction clearly comes out on top, by a huge margin. As for home heating with gas: wrong again - heat pumps are the superior method, and come with the benefits of being air conditioners as well.

oxymoran 5y ago
Heat pumps only work on their own in mild climates. Cold climates still require furnace in conjunction with the heat pump. Good luck convincing anyone in the northern United States of getting rid of their furnace or hot water heater. Spouting this sort of head-in-the-clouds, wrong information only weakens your cause. “WHERE DO HEAT PUMPS WORK BEST? Heat pumps are more common in milder climates, where the temperature does not typically drop below freezing. In colder regions, *they can also be combined with furnaces*for energy-efficient heating on all but the coldest days. When the temperature outside drops too low for the heat pump to operate effectively, the system will instead use the furnace to generate heat. This kind of system is often called a dual fuel system – it is very energy efficient and cost effective.” https://www.carrier.com/residential/en/us/products/heat-pumps/what-is-a-heat-pump-how-does-it-work/ https://www.carrier.com/residential/en/us/products/heat-pump...
- occz 5y ago
  Gas is still an inferior solution in those cases - wood pellets are better for those climates. Better yet, a combination of heat pumps and wood pellet furnaces gives you the best of both worlds - very energy-efficient heating while the temperature is still not too far below freezing (iirc heat pumps still beat alternatives as far down as negative 10-15 C), and wood pellets to handle the most extreme colds of the year. There's also the alternative of putting the outlet of the heat pump below ground, where the temperature never gets that far below zero. It's entirely incorrect to say that heat pumps only work in mild climates. I live in a country where we do not have a mild climate, and heat pumps are becoming more popular each day, owing to their technological superiority.
aniforprez 5y ago
I've used both. I like gas far more because I have better control over the temperature of what I'm making. This is pretty important when frying, boiling milk, making flat foods like dosa etc. The on-and-off method induction uses to control temperature is not ideal for this. I like induction for cooking when I need to boil or slow cook for a decent amount of time. Just set a timer and let it heat. Used an induction for 3 years and didn't regret getting a gas one instead I'm also not a fan of using buttons and touch controls on something like this when cooking. It's distracting and cumbersome. Lowering temperature requires multiple button presses when gas just lets me turn a knob to instantly put it on low