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Most places are weak on crime. We have a judge in Minneapolis over the last week: 1. Some guy chased a woman in his car and she ran to a fire station. He crash
by mrhands556 5y ago
Most places are weak on crime. We have a judge in Minneapolis over the last week:
1. Some guy chased a woman in his car and she ran to a fire station. He crashed into the fire station and fought firefighters. Released 0 bail.
2. Violent criminal with a long past let out of jail to attend funeral and hasn’t returned.
This is just the tip of the iceberg. We have constant 0 bail for young carjackers who steal peoples cars for joy rides.
It’s madness. I don’t care what anyone says about “punishment doesn’t deter crime”. That’s against human nature and total horseshit.
- panarky 5y agoThe US has a larger share of its population in prison than any other nation, about 6x higher than Canada, Japan and Western Europe. Is the problem really that too few people are in prison?
- slim109ya 5y agoYes, if they deserve to be in prison and aren't.
- adhesive_wombat 5y agoSo then the problem is why do more people deserve to be in prison in the US in particular? Whichever way you cut it, it's bad for society for it to be such a large percentage.
- citrin_ru 5y agoOne of reasons of large prison population is long sentences. Shorter sentences with better enforcement can be a better deterrent.
- afiori 5y agoToo few and too many aren't mutually exclusive, it is quite possible that the wrong people are in prison.
- meatsauce 5y agoSo? We have many criminals. Criminals deserve punishment, including jail should the crime be severe enough. Criminals prey on law abiding citizens. If you won't enforce the law, citizens will take the law into the their own hands. Then you will be forced to cry for criminals even more than you are doing now.
- mxkopy 5y agoThat is a really simple take on law and human behavior. Are we really going to ignore all of our modern understanding of psychology to say "criminal bad, criminal deserve jail"?
- panarky 5y agoImprisoning people is treating the symptom, not the cause. If you don't treat the cause, then you'll just continue getting more symptoms. Maybe we should figure out what it is about the USA that keeps generating so much more antisocial behavior than everywhere else and fix that.
- Gigachad 5y agoSeems like the problem in the US is there are pockets of society which have multi generational issues where the parents don’t know how to teach their kids to be successful since their lives have been a failure too. As well as an environment that normalises crime. It seems extremely difficult to break this cycle without actually removing kids from their parents/friend groups.
- paulryanrogers 5y agoAnother complicating factor could be that the US has a more diverse population. Tribalism is hard to overcome, especially with a messy history of racism and oppression.
- panarky 5y agoHow is this unique to the US?
- cnlevy 5y agoYou could punish in other ways than prison. Especially in a way to make them repair the damage they did.
- mxkopy 5y agoThis is anecdotal evidence, and should not be taken seriously.
- mitchdoogle 5y ago"I don’t care what anyone says about..." I can see you're enraged. There's the real problem about everything - making judgments and decisions about the world based on emotions, not facts. You should care what other people say, especially the people who study things scientifically. I'm sure it sounds great and judicious to your enraged lizard brain to lock someone up and throw away the key, but there's a lot more to consider than what makes you feel good.