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Just in case you thought about using Suckless/dwm: They’re doing literal torch hikes through southern Germany at their conferences, fighting online against "cu

by ognarb 5y ago

Just in case you thought about using Suckless/dwm: They’re doing literal torch hikes through southern Germany at their conferences, fighting online against "cultural marxism", and their mail server has the hostname "Wolfsschanze" (see: https://twitter.com/pid_eins/status/1113738766471057408 https://twitter.com/pid_eins/status/1113738766471057408) Source: https://twitter.com/kuschku/status/1156488420413362177 https://twitter.com/kuschku/status/1156488420413362177

raspyberr 5y ago
squarefoot 5y ago
From linked page: "This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid questions." From Wikipedia's definition of Eugenics: "Eugenics is a set of beliefs and practices that aim to improve the genetic quality of a human population, historically by excluding people and groups judged to be inferior or promoting those judged to be superior."
- okasaki 5y ago
  Filtering out the inexperienced has nothing at all to do with genetics.
  - squarefoot 5y ago
    The mindset behind that attitude, however, is pretty much the same.
    - okasaki 5y ago
      And what would that be?
      - squarefoot 5y ago
        Disrespect for people perceived as inferior because of limited knowledge in one field. Those elitists totally ignore that the newbie asking stupid questions about a Linux app could be the heart surgeon who one day saves their mommy's life.
        Kantberg 5y ago
        what a stupid misunderstanding and interpolation of it! Very few software is so accessible than suckless to anyone who wishes to use and fully understand it. Reading a source of 2000 lines is a comprehensible size indeed and there's no barrier. Quite the contrary: helpful manpages, web-browsable file trees and comments in the sources, mailinglist archives, tons of reviews in blogs and youtube, irc.
suckmore 5y ago
It's interesting to see where support for certain ideologies intersect. Suckless philosophy seems to be rooted in a disgust for "complex, error-prone and slow software", and they seem to have conservative tendencies towards new software tools/practices. Applying those ideas to multiculturalism could land you pretty near Nazism. What's interesting is I was actually drawn to suckless several years ago, and used dwm for a while. At the time, my work had me maintaining a disturbingly bug-ridden codebase, and it gave me a visceral disgust for bad code. Suckless was really compelling. They seemed to hate all the things I hated, and promised a solution. Eventually I changed jobs, grew out of it, and found more interesting solutions. Oh well, at least it wasn't a bout of National Socialism.
KDEless 5y ago
what else to expect from a "KDE developer. Qt/QML and full stack developer. Work at Nextcloud. Opinion are my own."
IntelMiner 5y ago
Don't forget the time they waded into the Debian mailing list to argue "maybe Hitler wasn't actually bad" https://web.archive.org/web/20190404153507/https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20181010.191925.ee1331b6.en.html https://web.archive.org/web/20190404153507/https://lists.dyn...
- NevilleNerd 5y ago
  And don't forget to check for recurring libel motives: systemd proponents, KDE-developers or lbgt extraverts like the "lady" with the torch light story. You can tell which way the wind is blowing.
  - kuschku 5y ago
    > lbgt extraverts like the "lady" with the torch light story. Is there a joke I'm missing or why are you using quotes there?
- kamranjon 5y ago
  I read the whole post and might have missed the part you are referencing here- can you provide a direct quote?
- door103 5y ago
  I am not involved in suckless, but who is this "they" you are talking about? This is one individual whose only connection to suckless appears to have been starting 2 threads about surf in 2017? https://lists.suckless.org/dev/author.html https://lists.suckless.org/dev/author.html ctrl f "enrico"

by ognarb 5y ago

raspyberr 5y ago

squarefoot 5y ago

From linked page: "This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid questions." From Wikipedia's definition of Eugenics: "Eugenics is a set of beliefs and practices that aim to improve the genetic quality of a human population, historically by excluding people and groups judged to be inferior or promoting those judged to be superior."

okasaki 5y ago
Filtering out the inexperienced has nothing at all to do with genetics.
- squarefoot 5y ago
  The mindset behind that attitude, however, is pretty much the same.
  - okasaki 5y ago
    And what would that be?
    - squarefoot 5y ago
      Disrespect for people perceived as inferior because of limited knowledge in one field. Those elitists totally ignore that the newbie asking stupid questions about a Linux app could be the heart surgeon who one day saves their mommy's life.
      - Kantberg 5y ago
        what a stupid misunderstanding and interpolation of it! Very few software is so accessible than suckless to anyone who wishes to use and fully understand it. Reading a source of 2000 lines is a comprehensible size indeed and there's no barrier. Quite the contrary: helpful manpages, web-browsable file trees and comments in the sources, mailinglist archives, tons of reviews in blogs and youtube, irc.

suckmore 5y ago

It's interesting to see where support for certain ideologies intersect. Suckless philosophy seems to be rooted in a disgust for "complex, error-prone and slow software", and they seem to have conservative tendencies towards new software tools/practices. Applying those ideas to multiculturalism could land you pretty near Nazism. What's interesting is I was actually drawn to suckless several years ago, and used dwm for a while. At the time, my work had me maintaining a disturbingly bug-ridden codebase, and it gave me a visceral disgust for bad code. Suckless was really compelling. They seemed to hate all the things I hated, and promised a solution. Eventually I changed jobs, grew out of it, and found more interesting solutions. Oh well, at least it wasn't a bout of National Socialism.

KDEless 5y ago

what else to expect from a "KDE developer. Qt/QML and full stack developer. Work at Nextcloud. Opinion are my own."

IntelMiner 5y ago

Don't forget the time they waded into the Debian mailing list to argue "maybe Hitler wasn't actually bad" https://web.archive.org/web/20190404153507/https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20181010.191925.ee1331b6.en.html https://web.archive.org/web/20190404153507/https://lists.dyn...

NevilleNerd 5y ago
And don't forget to check for recurring libel motives: systemd proponents, KDE-developers or lbgt extraverts like the "lady" with the torch light story. You can tell which way the wind is blowing.
- kuschku 5y ago
  > lbgt extraverts like the "lady" with the torch light story. Is there a joke I'm missing or why are you using quotes there?
kamranjon 5y ago
I read the whole post and might have missed the part you are referencing here- can you provide a direct quote?
door103 5y ago
I am not involved in suckless, but who is this "they" you are talking about? This is one individual whose only connection to suckless appears to have been starting 2 threads about surf in 2017? https://lists.suckless.org/dev/author.html https://lists.suckless.org/dev/author.html ctrl f "enrico"