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1) Once mainframe electronic computers started to be routinely manufactured computing jobs became engineering jobs which were primarily male. 2) When I was at
by peter303 5y ago
1) Once mainframe electronic computers started to be routinely manufactured computing jobs became engineering jobs which were primarily male.
2) When I was at Stanford and MIT in the 1970s, there was a debate whether Computer Science was a legitimate STEM topic and deserved a separate department (took MIT until 2018 to recognize such). Part of this was programming was considered a trade-school subject, feminine and secretarial, not unlike typing.
3) My first industrial science job I was assigned a (female) clerk who would keypunch my coding sheets, submit job decks and retrieve lineprinter output. The senior scientists considered it beneath their dignity to sully their hands with mundane programming tasks. I was considered an upstart for doing my programming personally and code rapidly outcode the senior staff.
- ghaff 5y agore: #2. I'm probably missing some nuance to your statement, but in the late 70s CS was part of CS/EE at MIT (within the school of engineering) with course 6.3 corresponding most closely to was people would think of as a CS degree. What was certainly true is that CS was a bit of an odd duck generally with it being at offspring of the Math department at some schools (e.g. Dartmouth) and Engineering at others (e.g. MIT). But it was always under the STEM umbrealla at those schools.