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"You sir would’ve thought the Germans right to get rid of those dirty Jews, and you would’ve justified it much the same way you justify yourself now" I have ne

"You sir would’ve thought the Germans right to get rid of those dirty Jews, and you would’ve justified it much the same way you justify yourself now" I have never had reason to flag anyone before but that statement has to be a quintessential example for why one would do so, in fact I don't think I've ever seen another statement on HN that would justify it more than this. No, I won't flag this message because I want your post to remain there for others to see how absolutely low you have stooped. You are not only being offensive in the extreme but you are accusing me of views that I have never expressed on HN or anywhere else for that matter. There is no way that you could ever possibly know what my views on that matter are; therefore, you are being provocative in the extreme. Nevertheless, I am still not going to bite. All I will add is that I do not hold those views and I never have. They are the antithesis of everything that I stand for. I have stated facts about our governance (and I once studied the subject). If you want to shoot the messenger instead of accepting the facts then that is your prerogative. However, be warned, it will get you nowhere and is likely to bring you a negative reputation that you may later come to regret.

mostertoaster 5y ago
I’m not necessarily meaning you personally but you in the sense of those who think this way > “Damn right it is, and they ought to be discriminated against for the safety of others—and that includes me! I don't want any unvaccinated person near me because I am more likely to die as a consequence and I expect the Government to keep them away from me at all costs—for it is the constitutional duty of government to protect me as a citizen from threat and danger.” I know governments don’t make decisions based on what is good, they make them on safety and what will keep them in office. But now imagine I said statistically black men are more likely to be incarcerated, but the story was therefore I should keep those damn criminals away from me. I will maybe take back my last harsh statement if you answer me this. You know someone at your work who is unvaccinated yet seems perfectly healthy, and yet he pretends he is vaccinated because his company requires it. Do you report him?
- hilbert42 5y ago
  "But now imagine I said statistically black men are more likely to be incarcerated, but the story was therefore I should keep those damn criminals away from me." 1. I would correct the accuracy of your statement: it is an unmitigated disgrace that per capita black men are still more likely to be incarcerated than are whites. (And this is in fact the case.) It's now 157 years since the Civil War - a war in which more Americans were killed than in all other wars combined - which was fought to end slavery, yet black men are still not really 'free' when they are still discriminated in this way. Institutional racism and many other factors are at work here, and it is the failings of American white society as well as biased and unfair policing and justice systems that allow this inequity to still happen. 2. Your analogy is flawed for this reason: viruses will attack and possibility kill me for no other reason than I exist and that I am sufficiently nearby for them to do so. On the other hand black men don't do that (I feel quite safe in their company and have always done so - I could never say that about lethal viruses). 3. Whether you take back your statement not is immaterial, I'll answer your question anyway. I can truthfully say that I do not know anyone, friends, work colleagues, etc. with whom I associate and who is not fully vaccinated (they've all been vaccinated and there's been no drama about it). However, if I were in the hypothetical situation that you've outlined then I would tell that person to immediately get vaccinated stating that he/she is endangering my health along with everyone else that we commonly associate with. I would then state and reiterate for emphasis that if he/she did not do so forthwith then I would report him/her. (I do not believe in being a tittle-tattle unless the person is acting in an extreme or life threatening way and even then I'd always warn him/her first.)

mostertoaster 5y ago

I’m not necessarily meaning you personally but you in the sense of those who think this way > “Damn right it is, and they ought to be discriminated against for the safety of others—and that includes me! I don't want any unvaccinated person near me because I am more likely to die as a consequence and I expect the Government to keep them away from me at all costs—for it is the constitutional duty of government to protect me as a citizen from threat and danger.” I know governments don’t make decisions based on what is good, they make them on safety and what will keep them in office. But now imagine I said statistically black men are more likely to be incarcerated, but the story was therefore I should keep those damn criminals away from me. I will maybe take back my last harsh statement if you answer me this. You know someone at your work who is unvaccinated yet seems perfectly healthy, and yet he pretends he is vaccinated because his company requires it. Do you report him?

hilbert42 5y ago
"But now imagine I said statistically black men are more likely to be incarcerated, but the story was therefore I should keep those damn criminals away from me." 1. I would correct the accuracy of your statement: it is an unmitigated disgrace that per capita black men are still more likely to be incarcerated than are whites. (And this is in fact the case.) It's now 157 years since the Civil War - a war in which more Americans were killed than in all other wars combined - which was fought to end slavery, yet black men are still not really 'free' when they are still discriminated in this way. Institutional racism and many other factors are at work here, and it is the failings of American white society as well as biased and unfair policing and justice systems that allow this inequity to still happen. 2. Your analogy is flawed for this reason: viruses will attack and possibility kill me for no other reason than I exist and that I am sufficiently nearby for them to do so. On the other hand black men don't do that (I feel quite safe in their company and have always done so - I could never say that about lethal viruses). 3. Whether you take back your statement not is immaterial, I'll answer your question anyway. I can truthfully say that I do not know anyone, friends, work colleagues, etc. with whom I associate and who is not fully vaccinated (they've all been vaccinated and there's been no drama about it). However, if I were in the hypothetical situation that you've outlined then I would tell that person to immediately get vaccinated stating that he/she is endangering my health along with everyone else that we commonly associate with. I would then state and reiterate for emphasis that if he/she did not do so forthwith then I would report him/her. (I do not believe in being a tittle-tattle unless the person is acting in an extreme or life threatening way and even then I'd always warn him/her first.)