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Re "trust is broken" - I used to think like this and I understand, but I would encourage you to try a more nuanced POV. There's a decent chance your manager was
by deagle50 5y ago
Re "trust is broken" - I used to think like this and I understand, but I would encourage you to try a more nuanced POV. There's a decent chance your manager was simply not allowed to accommodate you, and your verbal notice unlocked options from upper management.
- mjburgess 5y agoA good human being would say, "i'm not allowed to say this but...". Which good managers will do. You're on the path to leaving anyway.
- deagle50 5y agoIf that got out, said manager may be marked by the bosses for opening Pandora's box. When people have dependents and mortgages on the line, "good" has very little to do with it. Sad but true.
- citizenpaul 5y agoA good manager would still make clear that their hands are tied and this is all they can offer at this time. They will have to check with upper mgmt for any further options depending on the response to their current offer. There are a million legal/safe ways to say that the negotiation is not over just keep pushing. It could also hint that the manager thought the commenter was one of those social cripples that cannot handle negotiations professionally but it doesn't sound to be the case.
- WJW 5y agoOut of the million safe ways to say the negotiation is not over, quite a lot are so obscure that most employees would not even pick up on the subleties. (And if we're honest, we all know coworkers who wouldn't get that hint even if the manager outright told them their hands were tied at this point in the negotiation)
- Godel_unicode 5y agoWithout blaming the manager for the decisions of those above them, surely you have to see that this strengthens the argument that you shouldn't trust this person?
- deagle50 5y agoMaybe - I'm mainly making the point for future situations where it may make sense to stay if you don't adopt a binary trust mentality (which upper management probably does not have).
- kodah 5y agoAll that means is that the problem isn't managers but upper management micromanaging IC benefits.
- laserlight 5y ago> There's a decent chance your manager was simply not allowed to accommodate you A trusted party wouldn’t hesitate to explain the situation.