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The rioters failed to find the senators. They were one door away, and a guard lured them in the wrong direction. I’m not sure how much of an armed guard presenc

The rioters failed to find the senators. They were one door away, and a guard lured them in the wrong direction. I’m not sure how much of an armed guard presence was accompanying the senators at the time, though I believe it was not a large presence. Supposing they instead entered the room, it is probable to me that they would have been immediately shot. I doubt the rioters could have taken the room but who knows. In any case * I think the rioters would have killed some democratic leaders if given the opportunity * I think more gunshots would have occurred if the rioters went a different direction by chance * I think this is way, way too far already in terms of what is remotely ok.

beerandt 5y ago
And yet Democratics encouraged and even participated in blocking the Supreme Court confirmation vote using... a march to the capital and overrunning capital security forces and successfuy occupying every space they attempted to reach. Why shouldn't any of them been shot? Both were confirmations to the highest level of office in their respective branch of government and both were staged by political opponents protesting and admittedly attempting to block an "unjust" transfer of power. If "peaceful protest" vs "riotous coup" can hinge on the fact that your ideological allies could only have been there to "righteously have their voices heard" but ideological opponents must be there as "murderous usurpers", then your sympathetic reasoning might be better described as paranoid delusional projections. Let's remember that it was Eric Holder and Bill Clinton who pardoned a woman who literally bombed the capital building.
- oneoff786 5y ago
  One of those groups marched to the capitol. Another one of those groups broke into the capitol building, stole things, destroyed things, fought with guards, smeared poop on the walls, audibly shouting about looking for specific senators. and at least one person has been found guilty of carrying a gun. Multiple people found to have discussed killing the senators.
- whimsicalism 5y ago
  This is such a distorted picture of what actually happened. Your final reference (I'm assuming to the weathermen) is a much more apt comparison than the other protest you're discussing.
  - beerandt 5y ago
    I suppose you'd label them "mostly peaceful" if only they'd have burnt everything down around them.

beerandt 5y ago

And yet Democratics encouraged and even participated in blocking the Supreme Court confirmation vote using... a march to the capital and overrunning capital security forces and successfuy occupying every space they attempted to reach. Why shouldn't any of them been shot? Both were confirmations to the highest level of office in their respective branch of government and both were staged by political opponents protesting and admittedly attempting to block an "unjust" transfer of power. If "peaceful protest" vs "riotous coup" can hinge on the fact that your ideological allies could only have been there to "righteously have their voices heard" but ideological opponents must be there as "murderous usurpers", then your sympathetic reasoning might be better described as paranoid delusional projections. Let's remember that it was Eric Holder and Bill Clinton who pardoned a woman who literally bombed the capital building.

oneoff786 5y ago
One of those groups marched to the capitol. Another one of those groups broke into the capitol building, stole things, destroyed things, fought with guards, smeared poop on the walls, audibly shouting about looking for specific senators. and at least one person has been found guilty of carrying a gun. Multiple people found to have discussed killing the senators.
whimsicalism 5y ago
This is such a distorted picture of what actually happened. Your final reference (I'm assuming to the weathermen) is a much more apt comparison than the other protest you're discussing.
- beerandt 5y ago
  I suppose you'd label them "mostly peaceful" if only they'd have burnt everything down around them.