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Who planted the pipe bombs? Do you have proof that it was the rioters? If so please give the evidence to the FBI.

ben_w 5y ago
A trite response like that only makes sense if pipe bombs are so commonplace in the American Capitol that mere coincidence would not be surprising. I’m not American, so you tell me: are they?
- _-david-_ 5y ago
  Pipe bombs are not common. I'm sure you know that. The problem is we are in an extremely polarized time. Accusing people of an act like planting pipe bombs with no evidence is not going to lower the temperature.
  - ben_w 5y ago
    > Pipe bombs are not common. I'm sure you know that. Good, but no, if you are insisting on a standard of evidence so high that you are not willing to accept that the evidence points towards the obvious conclusion, then I must use a standard of evidence that says that actually no I don’t know how common pipe bombs are in DC. I mean, seriously I don’t know that — Literally everything about the second amendment looks that mad from outside for USA. This is in fact why I bothered to ask and didn’t dismiss the idea inside my own head. > Accusing people of an act like planting pipe bombs with no evidence is not going to lower the temperature. Evidence isn’t ever absolute. If I put two coins in a bag one of which is fair and the other one is biased 99% heads, I draw out a coin at random, flip it and get tales, I can be fairly sure it’s the fair coin even though I don’t know for certain. We know someone planted them because they were found, and we saw a person putting at least one of them in place on camera. Coins from a bag, which do you think it might be? And “lower the temperature”? Guess who is being blamed for that in all the press that I, a foreigner not living in the USA, get to see? Hint: lots of them have already been convicted.
    - _-david-_ 5y ago
      There is literally no evidence who planted the pipe bombs. I am quite willing to accept evidence if there were any. If you drove past a gas station while it was being robbed would you consider that evidence as to your guilt in association of the robbery? It may cause the police to look into you, but it wouldn't be sufficient to find you guilty. That is why nobody involved with the riot has been arrested for planting pipe bombs.

A trite response like that only makes sense if pipe bombs are so commonplace in the American Capitol that mere coincidence would not be surprising. I’m not American, so you tell me: are they?

_-david-_ 5y ago
Pipe bombs are not common. I'm sure you know that. The problem is we are in an extremely polarized time. Accusing people of an act like planting pipe bombs with no evidence is not going to lower the temperature.
- ben_w 5y ago
  > Pipe bombs are not common. I'm sure you know that. Good, but no, if you are insisting on a standard of evidence so high that you are not willing to accept that the evidence points towards the obvious conclusion, then I must use a standard of evidence that says that actually no I don’t know how common pipe bombs are in DC. I mean, seriously I don’t know that — Literally everything about the second amendment looks that mad from outside for USA. This is in fact why I bothered to ask and didn’t dismiss the idea inside my own head. > Accusing people of an act like planting pipe bombs with no evidence is not going to lower the temperature. Evidence isn’t ever absolute. If I put two coins in a bag one of which is fair and the other one is biased 99% heads, I draw out a coin at random, flip it and get tales, I can be fairly sure it’s the fair coin even though I don’t know for certain. We know someone planted them because they were found, and we saw a person putting at least one of them in place on camera. Coins from a bag, which do you think it might be? And “lower the temperature”? Guess who is being blamed for that in all the press that I, a foreigner not living in the USA, get to see? Hint: lots of them have already been convicted.
  - _-david-_ 5y ago
    There is literally no evidence who planted the pipe bombs. I am quite willing to accept evidence if there were any. If you drove past a gas station while it was being robbed would you consider that evidence as to your guilt in association of the robbery? It may cause the police to look into you, but it wouldn't be sufficient to find you guilty. That is why nobody involved with the riot has been arrested for planting pipe bombs.