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Like another comment I can think of examples without a liquid following. "Latin" is one. (I have a distant memory of being called strange for saying that as [t]
by asveikau 5y ago
Like another comment I can think of examples without a liquid following. "Latin" is one. (I have a distant memory of being called strange for saying that as [t])
I think I sometimes only do it if I'm talking fast. Pronouncing it as [t] isn't often outside the acceptable range, or something that makes you sound too foreign.
- School-Cotton 5y agoFor me the /t/ in Latin is a glottal stop. Where are you from? > Pronouncing it as [t] isn't often outside the acceptable range, or something that makes you sound too foreign. I don't know about that. I'm pretty sure someone pronouncing the /t/ in "butter", "little", etc. as [t] would make me very confident that they weren't American.
- asveikau 5y ago> Where are you from? I was born in Washington DC to a family that had recent roots all over Europe. And had some young interest and exposure to Spanish. I'm American, but my accent is a little all over the place. I don't get much grief over this in the northeast, but on the west coast people are pretty confused by the way I talk.
- School-Cotton 5y agoI’m from Arizona (not the West Coast, but culturally and physically close enough). My mom would always try to correct my pronunciation of “Latin”, “mountain”, and similar words with a /t/ realized as a glottal stop. She’s from the East Coast, so indeed, maybe that pronunciation isn’t as common there.
- asveikau 5y agoYeah. That amuses me. I'll need to be honest... When I hear people overdo the flap pronunciation of /t/ in those specific words, it triggers something judgemental in me. I've been on the west coast for 14 years now, so I think I've gotten over it somewhat.
- FeteCommuniste 5y agoThe "t" in "Latin" is just a glottal stop for me. Using [t] sounds vaguely British to my ears. Same goes for other words that end in "t" + unstressed "en," e.g. "fatten," "batten."
- asveikau 5y agoThat's a tad ironic because British people are some of the biggest users of glottal stops for /t/.
- FeteCommuniste 5y agoDefinitely. I was thinking more of the sort you hear from BBC reporters.
- Tagbert 5y agoReceived Pronunciation English does emphasize the /t/ in these cases, but other British dialects use glottal stops for /t/ in many cases.