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Google is strongly guided by the agents that shepherd it.

by abraham 15y ago

blub 15y ago
You mean agents like Eric Schmidt, that declare online privacy as dead?
- abraham 15y ago
  Online privacy never existed. If it is online it can be leaked, stolen, or shared.
vladd 15y ago
Are you aware that several Googlers resigned after a petition signed by 10% of the entire engineering workforce was ignored by management? See https://plus.google.com/100010618263697835406/posts/azTW8hvw7fx#100010618263697835406/posts/azTW8hvw7fx https://plus.google.com/100010618263697835406/posts/azTW8hvw... for details.
- jrockway 15y ago
  Would your complaint sound strange if it was worded, "Are you aware that several Googlers resigned after a petition ignored by 90% of the workforce was ignored by management?" Ultimately, some policy on some random social networking site nobody uses is not much of a big deal. If you don't like the policy, don't use Google+. Easy.
- abraham 15y ago
  "It seems that the G+ team is currently overwhelmed with technical issues of the current system -- that, combined with Vic's attitude, means that nymwars is not going to be addressed anytime soon. If engineers can scrape together 20% time to implement possible solutions and manage to convince decision-makers to let them roll out changes, we might see something." It sounds less like it was ignored and more like it isn't a priority for a resource stretched team.
danssig 15y ago
People still believe in a benevolent google after the App Engine scandal? Let me ask you something; what would Google have to do before you finally believe they're just a publicly traded company?
- abraham 15y ago
  The App Engine pricing issues are anything but a scandal.
  - danssig 15y ago
    Really? Getting a bunch of developers locked into a platform and then raising prices sometimes 100 times more than it was? What would they have to do for it to be a scandal for you? If Apple suddenly came out and said "right, from today on we want 75% of your sales instead of 30%" would you have the same reaction?
    - abraham 15y ago
      Terrible comparison. A dick move maybe but not a scandal. Google App Engine: * Not the dominant hosting platform. Not even close to being the dominant. * Maybe a million dollar product. Certainly not a billion dollar product. * In beta/preview until just now with developers knowing pricing had not been set or could be changed. * Optimizing your application properly can negate most if not all of the pricing increase. * Open source alternative framework available if you want to keep using the same APIs. Apple App Store: * Dominant market position with only the Android Market coming close. * Billion dollar product. * Existed as fully launched for several years. * Set percentage. You can't change it other then making your app free. * No open source alternative that supports the same APIs. Beta/preview products can and will change.

Google is strongly guided by the agents that shepherd it.

by abraham 15y ago

Google is strongly guided by the agents that shepherd it.

blub 15y ago

You mean agents like Eric Schmidt, that declare online privacy as dead?

abraham 15y ago
Online privacy never existed. If it is online it can be leaked, stolen, or shared.

vladd 15y ago

Are you aware that several Googlers resigned after a petition signed by 10% of the entire engineering workforce was ignored by management? See https://plus.google.com/100010618263697835406/posts/azTW8hvw7fx#100010618263697835406/posts/azTW8hvw7fx https://plus.google.com/100010618263697835406/posts/azTW8hvw... for details.

jrockway 15y ago
Would your complaint sound strange if it was worded, "Are you aware that several Googlers resigned after a petition ignored by 90% of the workforce was ignored by management?" Ultimately, some policy on some random social networking site nobody uses is not much of a big deal. If you don't like the policy, don't use Google+. Easy.
abraham 15y ago
"It seems that the G+ team is currently overwhelmed with technical issues of the current system -- that, combined with Vic's attitude, means that nymwars is not going to be addressed anytime soon. If engineers can scrape together 20% time to implement possible solutions and manage to convince decision-makers to let them roll out changes, we might see something." It sounds less like it was ignored and more like it isn't a priority for a resource stretched team.

danssig 15y ago

People still believe in a benevolent google after the App Engine scandal? Let me ask you something; what would Google have to do before you finally believe they're just a publicly traded company?

abraham 15y ago
The App Engine pricing issues are anything but a scandal.
- danssig 15y ago
  Really? Getting a bunch of developers locked into a platform and then raising prices sometimes 100 times more than it was? What would they have to do for it to be a scandal for you? If Apple suddenly came out and said "right, from today on we want 75% of your sales instead of 30%" would you have the same reaction?
  - abraham 15y ago
    Terrible comparison. A dick move maybe but not a scandal. Google App Engine: * Not the dominant hosting platform. Not even close to being the dominant. * Maybe a million dollar product. Certainly not a billion dollar product. * In beta/preview until just now with developers knowing pricing had not been set or could be changed. * Optimizing your application properly can negate most if not all of the pricing increase. * Open source alternative framework available if you want to keep using the same APIs. Apple App Store: * Dominant market position with only the Android Market coming close. * Billion dollar product. * Existed as fully launched for several years. * Set percentage. You can't change it other then making your app free. * No open source alternative that supports the same APIs. Beta/preview products can and will change.