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Glad you enjoy your life at 800 MHz! I appreciated your article although the plural form to address a single person (not the editorial "we") makes me uneasy for

Glad you enjoy your life at 800 MHz! I appreciated your article although the plural form to address a single person (not the editorial "we") makes me uneasy for political considerations. So many more things could be easily enjoyable on such hardware if the software ecosystem allowed it. I'm also curious what hardware modularity like Framework is doing could have achieved two decades ago: if you could easily plug in a chip to decode/encode video quickly, this computer could probably play any kind of video. > We have no idea what crates.io thinks it makes sense to require javascript to look up packages but here we are. I've had a similar experience with crates.io: curl https://crates.io/ {"errors":[{"detail":"Not Found"}]} Apparently, without a specific Accept header, crates.io thinks i want a JSON response for a crate lookup, not the homepage. Now i don't even remember why i was requesting this URL to start with (not in a script) but i don't understand the logic of that and the maintainers in the chatrooms seemed to consider it's not a bug. I'm also very curious about antiX "proudly anti-fascist" distro but that they're two debian releases late (still on stretch) does not exactly attract me.

FredPret 5y ago
Sounds like that guy "All" from Zoolander
BTCOG 5y ago
AntiX is a wonderful systemd-free debian and now also has Sid. It's fast as fuck in usage. It's best left as a live system.
LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
Uhm? https://antixlinux.com/antix-21-grup-yorum-released/ https://antixlinux.com/antix-21-grup-yorum-released/ https://antixlinux.com/antix-sid-iso-files-available/ https://antixlinux.com/antix-sid-iso-files-available/ If you feel too irked/offended by antiX there is also https://mxlinux.org/ https://mxlinux.org/
gcr 5y ago
I don't want to speculate about Artemis specifically, but first-person plural pronouns to refer to oneself typically isn't a "royal we" or anything like that, it's just what helps some folks feel comfortable, especially those who have DiD or who label themselves as plural. See https://www.reddit.com/r/plural/wiki/index https://www.reddit.com/r/plural/wiki/index (keywords: "plurality," "multiplicity," ...) I'm dating someone who refers to themself in the first person plural; it becomes perfectly natural pretty quick :)
- blackboxlogic 5y ago
  After finishing the article, my main take-away was how impressive it is that such a quirky tech setup could work for both of them. I was comparing it to my relationship and how difficult it is to share any item/space which is also customized to either of our preferences. It gave me hope. Then I read these comments.
  - jiggawatts 5y ago
    I grew up with the ~10 MHz 8086 PC, and I was on bulletin boards and the Internet around the 486 era, still stuck in the "tens of megahertz" era. Even wireframe 3D rendering at 640x480 was glacially slow. CAD applications on a CPU without a floating point unit were just unbelievably painful. 800 MHz and a solid state disk is luxurious if you're not wasteful with it. As the article's author points out, this is "not up to you" ("we"/"us") any more, other people get to decide how much JavaScript to shovel on top of web applications.
- tomxor 5y ago
  But what is the intended purpose? It seems ambiguous to me, I was honestly trying to figure out if there was more than one person using the author's laptop, or if it was a multi-author article or something. Not that English isn't chocked full of ambiguity - I just haven't managed to identify a benefit over using the more commonly accepted "I" here.
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  - bakugo 5y ago
- myself248 5y ago
  I interpreted this as the "editorial we" or perhaps the "author's we": > The editorial we is a similar phenomenon, in which an editorial columnist in a newspaper or a similar commentator in another medium refers to themselves as we when giving their opinion. Here, the writer casts themselves in the role of spokesperson: either for the media institution who employs them, or on behalf of the party or body of citizens who agree with the commentary. The reference is not explicit, but is generally consistent with first-person plural. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We It's quite standard usage.
throw10920 5y ago
> I'm also very curious about antiX "proudly anti-fascist" distro "Anti-fascist" doesn't actually mean that - it's a political dog-whistle. > they're two debian releases late That's in line with their use of Palemoon, which lags behind normal Firefox feature (and security) releases due to their decision to support older features (mostly XUL) (not that this is very avoidable, because maintaining an XUL fork is very hard work, and not for the faint of heart).
- dobs_bob 5y ago
  Dog whistle for what?
  - cperciva 5y ago
    There's no unified "anti-fascist" movement, but the common theme among the self-described anti-fascists I know is the belief that physical violence has a legitimate place in democratic processes. Frankly they remind me of a line by Nietzsche about staring too long into an abyss.
    - southerntofu 5y ago
      > the belief that physical violence has a legitimate place in democratic processes. That's not exactly the point, though. We are not in a democratic process (unless by democracy you mean giving away powers to congress), and our society is very violent towards the most vulnerable segments of it. Do you think giving back just a tiny portion of that daily violence we face is immoral or wrong? How is it justified for people to threaten us with guns if we don't pay rent to some arbitrary landlord or to detain us if we dare steal food for basic survival, yet attacking bank windows or punching an actual genocidal nazi in the face is seen as violent?!
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    I guess fascists who want to prove that they can render their swastika on an Antix machine no matter what the developers do.
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csomar 5y ago
> > We have no idea what crates.io thinks it makes sense to require javascript to look up packages but here we are. >I've had a similar experience with crates.io: They do have an API (ps: I built crates.live on top of it). I think they have a very good reasons to block the crawling of their main website. Otherwise, people might abuse it. Actually, they recommend you identify yourself when crawling their API to not limit you. I didn't do it, and found no problem constantly calling their APIs.
- southerntofu 5y ago
  > Otherwise, people might abuse it. So first, "crawling" a website is not abusing it. It's simply using the website and there's nothing wrong with that. Then, i believe that "not found" JSON message was not intended as an anti-scraping measure, but was in their view a meaningful error in the sense that i did not request info about a specific crate so the API responded "not found". What's weird is no specific Accept header, http://crates.io http://crates.io returns 301 with some HTML, and https://crates.io/ https://crates.io/ returns 404 with some JSON, while in a browser you get a proper 200 with HTML. I just found that pattern very confusing, but hey maybe i'm just an old dinosaur and that is the future of web development.
guessbest 5y ago
I have a laptop from 2009 or 2010 running at 800 mhz with a 32 bit CPU. It has to run an older version of Ubuntu (18.04) because nothing supports it nowadays. Even 32 bit packages are hard to get. I see no reason to use antiX or other esoteric distros since ubuntu runs fine on it and supports the hardware. I doubt antiX supports more hardware. Someone else recommended it here, but I don't see the advantages over a robust package repository like ubuntu 18 or a minimal ram only distro like puppylinux. https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/antix.html https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/antix.html Funny enough I got puppylinux running from a dos (windows) partition and running out of RAM on just 2gb on a Toshiba Portage m200. I've even got Windows XP Tablet edition running on SSD, but it can't really connect to much online due to the TLS limitations. And newer versions of the linux kernel don't support the wireless chipset. It is also difficult putting an old non-PAE kernel into a newer distro. TLS really killed the utility of a lot of older computers with regards to using the "modern internet".
- slacka 5y ago
  I have an old Dell with a 32-bit 2.33 Ghz T2700. Linux fully supports the GPU, and no issues with missing 32-bit packages on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. It's a spare browsing / retro gaming machine hooked up to the TV in the guest room. For gaming, it runs everything from arcade MAME to Mario Kart 64 like a champ. For browsing, it's not speedy but not bad on heavy HTML sites like gmail/youtube. I agree antiX was a poor choice. No issue with PAE kernel on Tumbleweed i686. If OpenSUSE ever drops x86 support, there's always Debian or Arch 32 (if I want to stick with a rolling distro).
- don-code 5y ago
  I still have a tablet PC from 2005 in rotation, and the lack of 32-bit apps is definitely a killer, but not terrible. My original reason for reviving it was for use as a whiteboard in Zoom calls, but there's no 32-bit Zoom app - and I'm sure screen sharing while decoding 15 people's video would've been out of the question anyway. So I run a VNC server on it, and share out a VNC session from my work laptop instead. I've also hit the issue where I've had to compile software for x86 using modern build toolchains. It takes forever, and more often than not, I run out of RAM (only 1GB). To get myself out of a pinch, I've mounted a 16GB USB 2.0 flash drive as swap space. Sure, it makes compiling even the most basic software a multi-hour process, but where this machine isn't my daily driver, it's still easier (to me, at least) than cross-compiling.
bitwize 5y ago
> Glad you enjoy your life at 800 MHz! I appreciated your article although the plural form to address a single person (not the editorial "we") makes me uneasy for political considerations. You assume Artemis identifies as a single person. In all likelihood, they are a plural system. Statements like yours are microaggressive at best.
- BenjiWiebe 5y ago
  There was one slip in the article though: "did I say". Which makes it even more jarring to read, IMO.
  - justsomehnguy 5y ago
    Ouch, right in the start. They started using that pronoun only 3-4 months ago, so it still slip in. I'm more puzzled why 'we' but not 'our'?
- bener 5y ago
  A plural system? You say that as though it requires no explanation. I don't get the "political considerations" part, but this is the first time I've encountered anyone referring to themselves as "we" online, and I also found it jarring.
  - bitwize 5y ago
    A plural system is multiple identities or personalities in one body/mind. Plural systems are increasingly demanding to be recognized and respected as such -- and companies are starting to comply. Much like trans and nonbinary identity, plurality is an aspect of identity we're all going to have to deal with now.
    - RoddaWallPro 5y ago
      Genuine question: How do you differentiate this from full-blown mental illness? Because this sounds 100% like what society traditionally recognizes as schizophrenia/split personality disorder. Or, in more extreme cases & phrased less politely, insanity.

FredPret 5y ago

Sounds like that guy "All" from Zoolander

BTCOG 5y ago

AntiX is a wonderful systemd-free debian and now also has Sid. It's fast as fuck in usage. It's best left as a live system.

LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago

Uhm? https://antixlinux.com/antix-21-grup-yorum-released/ https://antixlinux.com/antix-21-grup-yorum-released/ https://antixlinux.com/antix-sid-iso-files-available/ https://antixlinux.com/antix-sid-iso-files-available/ If you feel too irked/offended by antiX there is also https://mxlinux.org/ https://mxlinux.org/

gcr 5y ago

I don't want to speculate about Artemis specifically, but first-person plural pronouns to refer to oneself typically isn't a "royal we" or anything like that, it's just what helps some folks feel comfortable, especially those who have DiD or who label themselves as plural. See https://www.reddit.com/r/plural/wiki/index https://www.reddit.com/r/plural/wiki/index (keywords: "plurality," "multiplicity," ...) I'm dating someone who refers to themself in the first person plural; it becomes perfectly natural pretty quick :)

blackboxlogic 5y ago
After finishing the article, my main take-away was how impressive it is that such a quirky tech setup could work for both of them. I was comparing it to my relationship and how difficult it is to share any item/space which is also customized to either of our preferences. It gave me hope. Then I read these comments.
- jiggawatts 5y ago
  I grew up with the ~10 MHz 8086 PC, and I was on bulletin boards and the Internet around the 486 era, still stuck in the "tens of megahertz" era. Even wireframe 3D rendering at 640x480 was glacially slow. CAD applications on a CPU without a floating point unit were just unbelievably painful. 800 MHz and a solid state disk is luxurious if you're not wasteful with it. As the article's author points out, this is "not up to you" ("we"/"us") any more, other people get to decide how much JavaScript to shovel on top of web applications.
tomxor 5y ago
But what is the intended purpose? It seems ambiguous to me, I was honestly trying to figure out if there was more than one person using the author's laptop, or if it was a multi-author article or something. Not that English isn't chocked full of ambiguity - I just haven't managed to identify a benefit over using the more commonly accepted "I" here.
- deleted 5y ago
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- bakugo 5y ago
myself248 5y ago
I interpreted this as the "editorial we" or perhaps the "author's we": > The editorial we is a similar phenomenon, in which an editorial columnist in a newspaper or a similar commentator in another medium refers to themselves as we when giving their opinion. Here, the writer casts themselves in the role of spokesperson: either for the media institution who employs them, or on behalf of the party or body of citizens who agree with the commentary. The reference is not explicit, but is generally consistent with first-person plural. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We It's quite standard usage.

throw10920 5y ago

> I'm also very curious about antiX "proudly anti-fascist" distro "Anti-fascist" doesn't actually mean that - it's a political dog-whistle. > they're two debian releases late That's in line with their use of Palemoon, which lags behind normal Firefox feature (and security) releases due to their decision to support older features (mostly XUL) (not that this is very avoidable, because maintaining an XUL fork is very hard work, and not for the faint of heart).

dobs_bob 5y ago
Dog whistle for what?
- cperciva 5y ago
  There's no unified "anti-fascist" movement, but the common theme among the self-described anti-fascists I know is the belief that physical violence has a legitimate place in democratic processes. Frankly they remind me of a line by Nietzsche about staring too long into an abyss.
  - southerntofu 5y ago
    > the belief that physical violence has a legitimate place in democratic processes. That's not exactly the point, though. We are not in a democratic process (unless by democracy you mean giving away powers to congress), and our society is very violent towards the most vulnerable segments of it. Do you think giving back just a tiny portion of that daily violence we face is immoral or wrong? How is it justified for people to threaten us with guns if we don't pay rent to some arbitrary landlord or to detain us if we dare steal food for basic survival, yet attacking bank windows or punching an actual genocidal nazi in the face is seen as violent?!
- smoldesu 5y ago
  I guess fascists who want to prove that they can render their swastika on an Antix machine no matter what the developers do.
- 5y ago

csomar 5y ago

> > We have no idea what crates.io thinks it makes sense to require javascript to look up packages but here we are. >I've had a similar experience with crates.io: They do have an API (ps: I built crates.live on top of it). I think they have a very good reasons to block the crawling of their main website. Otherwise, people might abuse it. Actually, they recommend you identify yourself when crawling their API to not limit you. I didn't do it, and found no problem constantly calling their APIs.

southerntofu 5y ago
> Otherwise, people might abuse it. So first, "crawling" a website is not abusing it. It's simply using the website and there's nothing wrong with that. Then, i believe that "not found" JSON message was not intended as an anti-scraping measure, but was in their view a meaningful error in the sense that i did not request info about a specific crate so the API responded "not found". What's weird is no specific Accept header, http://crates.io http://crates.io returns 301 with some HTML, and https://crates.io/ https://crates.io/ returns 404 with some JSON, while in a browser you get a proper 200 with HTML. I just found that pattern very confusing, but hey maybe i'm just an old dinosaur and that is the future of web development.

guessbest 5y ago

I have a laptop from 2009 or 2010 running at 800 mhz with a 32 bit CPU. It has to run an older version of Ubuntu (18.04) because nothing supports it nowadays. Even 32 bit packages are hard to get. I see no reason to use antiX or other esoteric distros since ubuntu runs fine on it and supports the hardware. I doubt antiX supports more hardware. Someone else recommended it here, but I don't see the advantages over a robust package repository like ubuntu 18 or a minimal ram only distro like puppylinux. https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/antix.html https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/antix.html Funny enough I got puppylinux running from a dos (windows) partition and running out of RAM on just 2gb on a Toshiba Portage m200. I've even got Windows XP Tablet edition running on SSD, but it can't really connect to much online due to the TLS limitations. And newer versions of the linux kernel don't support the wireless chipset. It is also difficult putting an old non-PAE kernel into a newer distro. TLS really killed the utility of a lot of older computers with regards to using the "modern internet".

slacka 5y ago
I have an old Dell with a 32-bit 2.33 Ghz T2700. Linux fully supports the GPU, and no issues with missing 32-bit packages on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. It's a spare browsing / retro gaming machine hooked up to the TV in the guest room. For gaming, it runs everything from arcade MAME to Mario Kart 64 like a champ. For browsing, it's not speedy but not bad on heavy HTML sites like gmail/youtube. I agree antiX was a poor choice. No issue with PAE kernel on Tumbleweed i686. If OpenSUSE ever drops x86 support, there's always Debian or Arch 32 (if I want to stick with a rolling distro).
don-code 5y ago
I still have a tablet PC from 2005 in rotation, and the lack of 32-bit apps is definitely a killer, but not terrible. My original reason for reviving it was for use as a whiteboard in Zoom calls, but there's no 32-bit Zoom app - and I'm sure screen sharing while decoding 15 people's video would've been out of the question anyway. So I run a VNC server on it, and share out a VNC session from my work laptop instead. I've also hit the issue where I've had to compile software for x86 using modern build toolchains. It takes forever, and more often than not, I run out of RAM (only 1GB). To get myself out of a pinch, I've mounted a 16GB USB 2.0 flash drive as swap space. Sure, it makes compiling even the most basic software a multi-hour process, but where this machine isn't my daily driver, it's still easier (to me, at least) than cross-compiling.

bitwize 5y ago

> Glad you enjoy your life at 800 MHz! I appreciated your article although the plural form to address a single person (not the editorial "we") makes me uneasy for political considerations. You assume Artemis identifies as a single person. In all likelihood, they are a plural system. Statements like yours are microaggressive at best.

BenjiWiebe 5y ago
There was one slip in the article though: "did I say". Which makes it even more jarring to read, IMO.
- justsomehnguy 5y ago
  Ouch, right in the start. They started using that pronoun only 3-4 months ago, so it still slip in. I'm more puzzled why 'we' but not 'our'?
bener 5y ago
A plural system? You say that as though it requires no explanation. I don't get the "political considerations" part, but this is the first time I've encountered anyone referring to themselves as "we" online, and I also found it jarring.
- bitwize 5y ago
  A plural system is multiple identities or personalities in one body/mind. Plural systems are increasingly demanding to be recognized and respected as such -- and companies are starting to comply. Much like trans and nonbinary identity, plurality is an aspect of identity we're all going to have to deal with now.
  - RoddaWallPro 5y ago
    Genuine question: How do you differentiate this from full-blown mental illness? Because this sounds 100% like what society traditionally recognizes as schizophrenia/split personality disorder. Or, in more extreme cases & phrased less politely, insanity.