4 ms·

I don't understand what makes the "antiX" linux distro they're using "proudly antifascist".

BTCOG 5y ago
The idea behind it is using only free software, and nothing non-free. The guy who runs AntiX goes by the username Anticapitalista and the theme is not supporting corporate computer systems and consumerist cruft.
malf 5y ago
They write it on their web page. This makes people who are “not fascist, just anti-anti-fascist” out themselves.
- Minor49er 5y ago
  I checked out antixlinux.com to see and they don't explain it on the front page, About page, or on their FAQ
- traverseda 5y ago
  I did poke around a bit to try and see if there was an explanation, or any explicitly anti-fascist features. I guess it is just intended as some kind of in-group identifying thing? I had thought maybe they were implying systemd was facist, as they stress that the distro doesn't use systemd. I guess I assumed it would be a stronger connection, given that the distro is called "anti"-X and it's "anti"-facist, that it would have some explicit tor integration or something.
  - tandymodel100 5y ago
    I think the subtext is some people associated systemd opposition to right wing politics (not fully unfounded if I understand) so the maintainers wanted to get out ahead of it when releasing another distro without systemd
    - traverseda 5y ago
      I hesitate to ask, but can you provide some context for linking anti-systemd sentiment with fascism?
      - bakugo 5y ago
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]
VLM 5y ago
Google search results show their repeated response to questions like that on their forums is anyone who disagrees with them in any way or criticizes anything they've done is literally Hitler. They're apparently very hard to get along with. Its a rather interesting and extreme solution to endless bike shedding arguments. Should "our" editor be vim or emacs? Well anyone who disagrees with me is literally Hitler so we're going to use XYZ and you'll like it or go away. That's an interesting strategy to save time on eternal discussions.
- BTCOG 5y ago
  It goes back a long ways and it stems from very minimalist only free software linux communities. Many of these communities I've been privy to for 15+ years take pride in running in the smallest memory footprint, are anti-Java, anti-javascript, anti-Poettering (systemd as a backdoor), etc. and this is the premise of it. This community will get very mad at you for suggesting to add in those things that they deeply hate, i.e., javascript or non-free software blobs.
jccalhoun 5y ago
I searched for antix antifascist and came across this post: https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/anti-fascist-antix/#post-62620 https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/anti-fascist-antix/#... >>antiX is not anti politics, it is anti fascist politics. Politics is everywhere whether you like it or not. Put simply, we do not tolerate politics or people spreading hate/prejudice/violence against people because of their skin colour, race, religion (or none), gender, sexuality.
smegsicle 5y ago
The only other time I've heard of "IT-fascism" is when this 'abebeos' character threatened someone's job for not taking seriously a 50% claim on a $7k bounty for 'documentation, testing, and integration work'. https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=92729#c56 https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=92729#c56 (relevant discussion is collapsed) threat: comment 56; "IT-fascism": 58,60,61

The idea behind it is using only free software, and nothing non-free. The guy who runs AntiX goes by the username Anticapitalista and the theme is not supporting corporate computer systems and consumerist cruft.

malf 5y ago

They write it on their web page. This makes people who are “not fascist, just anti-anti-fascist” out themselves.

Minor49er 5y ago
I checked out antixlinux.com to see and they don't explain it on the front page, About page, or on their FAQ
traverseda 5y ago
I did poke around a bit to try and see if there was an explanation, or any explicitly anti-fascist features. I guess it is just intended as some kind of in-group identifying thing? I had thought maybe they were implying systemd was facist, as they stress that the distro doesn't use systemd. I guess I assumed it would be a stronger connection, given that the distro is called "anti"-X and it's "anti"-facist, that it would have some explicit tor integration or something.
- tandymodel100 5y ago
  I think the subtext is some people associated systemd opposition to right wing politics (not fully unfounded if I understand) so the maintainers wanted to get out ahead of it when releasing another distro without systemd
  - traverseda 5y ago
    I hesitate to ask, but can you provide some context for linking anti-systemd sentiment with fascism?
    - bakugo 5y ago
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]

VLM 5y ago

Google search results show their repeated response to questions like that on their forums is anyone who disagrees with them in any way or criticizes anything they've done is literally Hitler. They're apparently very hard to get along with. Its a rather interesting and extreme solution to endless bike shedding arguments. Should "our" editor be vim or emacs? Well anyone who disagrees with me is literally Hitler so we're going to use XYZ and you'll like it or go away. That's an interesting strategy to save time on eternal discussions.

BTCOG 5y ago
It goes back a long ways and it stems from very minimalist only free software linux communities. Many of these communities I've been privy to for 15+ years take pride in running in the smallest memory footprint, are anti-Java, anti-javascript, anti-Poettering (systemd as a backdoor), etc. and this is the premise of it. This community will get very mad at you for suggesting to add in those things that they deeply hate, i.e., javascript or non-free software blobs.

jccalhoun 5y ago

I searched for antix antifascist and came across this post: https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/anti-fascist-antix/#post-62620 https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/anti-fascist-antix/#... >>antiX is not anti politics, it is anti fascist politics. Politics is everywhere whether you like it or not. Put simply, we do not tolerate politics or people spreading hate/prejudice/violence against people because of their skin colour, race, religion (or none), gender, sexuality.

smegsicle 5y ago

The only other time I've heard of "IT-fascism" is when this 'abebeos' character threatened someone's job for not taking seriously a 50% claim on a $7k bounty for 'documentation, testing, and integration work'. https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=92729#c56 https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=92729#c56 (relevant discussion is collapsed) threat: comment 56; "IT-fascism": 58,60,61