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> War isn't some kind of rock paper scissors as in RTS games. No. The goal is to force the opponent to play rock-paper-scissors, while you don't have to. Ever

> War isn't some kind of rock paper scissors as in RTS games. No. The goal is to force the opponent to play rock-paper-scissors, while you don't have to. Every M1 Abrams tank (aka: 120mm platform) is supported by an M2 Bradley (aka: 30mm platform). Do you know why? Because there are things a 30mm gun can do that a 120mm can't. And vice versa. ----------- By sending an M1 Abrams + M2 Bradley at the same time to your opponent, _THEY_ have to play rock paper scissors against your known strategy, depending on if the M1 Abrams reaches them first, or if the M2 Bradley reaches them first. Add on a few 155mm indirect fire Howitzers, a few infantry who know how to use mortars + small arms fire, and now the opponent is playing rock-paper-scissors against so many different possibilities. The Tank Commander/gunner isn't playing rock paper scissors at all. They see the target, then choose the right ammo, and then shoot what's appropriate.

littlestymaar 5y ago
You're really making a fool of yourself. “Amateurs discuss tactics, professionals discuss operations, teenagers discuss gun caliber”, here we are.
- dragontamer 5y ago
  The adage I've usually seen is that Logistics is the king of the battlefield actually. I'm not entirely certain what you want to do or what your point is in this discussion. I thought you wanted to discuss the properties of lasers and how they could be (or could not be) useful in a fight?
  - littlestymaar 5y ago
    The M2 Bradley is primarily an infantry transport vehicle! Its main role is an operational one, presenting it as a “30mm(sic) platform” is just completely missing the point. Regarding lasers, I wanted to have insight from more knowledgeable people on that topic (because my naive view is certainly wrong), but you have efficiently shown me that you aren't that person.
    - dragontamer 5y ago
      https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/ARN32974-ATP_3-90.5-000-WEB-1.pdf https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/ARN32974-ATP_3-... That's a lot of information about the nitty-gritty of IFVs (aka: M2 Bradley). Weapons discussions are always relevant to the realm of tactics, of which the US Army absolutely makes detailed discussions and manuals about. ------ In any case, the field manual absolutely cares about the 25mm to 30mm cannon on the M2 Bradley / IFV platform. The "Combined Arms" battalions follow this guidance, to maximize the amount of uncertainty the opponent faces on the battlefield. These details matter. And I'm almost certain that the "Laser" weapon will be seen in some kind of light akin to this theory.

littlestymaar 5y ago

You're really making a fool of yourself. “Amateurs discuss tactics, professionals discuss operations, teenagers discuss gun caliber”, here we are.

dragontamer 5y ago
The adage I've usually seen is that Logistics is the king of the battlefield actually. I'm not entirely certain what you want to do or what your point is in this discussion. I thought you wanted to discuss the properties of lasers and how they could be (or could not be) useful in a fight?
- littlestymaar 5y ago
  The M2 Bradley is primarily an infantry transport vehicle! Its main role is an operational one, presenting it as a “30mm(sic) platform” is just completely missing the point. Regarding lasers, I wanted to have insight from more knowledgeable people on that topic (because my naive view is certainly wrong), but you have efficiently shown me that you aren't that person.
  - dragontamer 5y ago
    https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/ARN32974-ATP_3-90.5-000-WEB-1.pdf https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/ARN32974-ATP_3-... That's a lot of information about the nitty-gritty of IFVs (aka: M2 Bradley). Weapons discussions are always relevant to the realm of tactics, of which the US Army absolutely makes detailed discussions and manuals about. ------ In any case, the field manual absolutely cares about the 25mm to 30mm cannon on the M2 Bradley / IFV platform. The "Combined Arms" battalions follow this guidance, to maximize the amount of uncertainty the opponent faces on the battlefield. These details matter. And I'm almost certain that the "Laser" weapon will be seen in some kind of light akin to this theory.