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Well, let me know when you have a study showing how the mice and vipers in those fields are affected.

DocTomoe 5y ago
Well, there is a DLR (essentially Germany's NASA) study about the effect of wind turbines on insects [1]. It's not pretty. Neither is the study on the effect on birds [2] by NABU, one of our "Sierra Club"-style organisations. [1] https://www.dlr.de/content/en/articles/news/2019/01/20190326_dlr-studies-interactions-flying-insects-wind-farms.html https://www.dlr.de/content/en/articles/news/2019/01/20190326... links to an English-language interview. [2] https://bergenhusen.nabu.de/imperia/md/nabu/images/nabu/einrichtungen/bergenhusen/projekte/windenergie/impact_of_repowering.pdf https://bergenhusen.nabu.de/imperia/md/nabu/images/nabu/einr...
- cinntaile 5y ago
  It's not pretty is not what the research concluded. "From the currently available figures and the DLR model calculation, we cannot conclude either that wind energy plays a significant role in the reduction of insect numbers, or that it has no impact. " Needs more research.
- guerrilla 5y ago
  There's no mention of sound or noise in either one of those.
  - DocTomoe 5y ago
    The insect study focusses on getting hit by the turbine wing, that's right. The bird study only talks about effects, without specifying effects, and takes note about bird-specific things like "avoidance distance", which is linked to - among other factors - noise. Tbh: it does feel like you are moving goalposts because the studies do not show what you'd like them to show, that wind energy is green and ecologically friendly. We see that a lot.
    - guerrilla 5y ago
      >>> Wind produces noise >> Noise doesn't only affect humans. > Well, let me know when you have a study showing how the mice and vipers in those fields are affected. This part of the thread is about noise. I'm not moving the goalpost, you're just off topic.
otherme123 5y ago
This is anecdata, but I was hiking through an eolic field and saw a group of semi-wild horses directly below a turbine. Some of them were grazing, others were resting/sleeping. None of them could care less about the noise.

Well, there is a DLR (essentially Germany's NASA) study about the effect of wind turbines on insects [1]. It's not pretty. Neither is the study on the effect on birds [2] by NABU, one of our "Sierra Club"-style organisations. [1] https://www.dlr.de/content/en/articles/news/2019/01/20190326_dlr-studies-interactions-flying-insects-wind-farms.html https://www.dlr.de/content/en/articles/news/2019/01/20190326... links to an English-language interview. [2] https://bergenhusen.nabu.de/imperia/md/nabu/images/nabu/einrichtungen/bergenhusen/projekte/windenergie/impact_of_repowering.pdf https://bergenhusen.nabu.de/imperia/md/nabu/images/nabu/einr...

cinntaile 5y ago
It's not pretty is not what the research concluded. "From the currently available figures and the DLR model calculation, we cannot conclude either that wind energy plays a significant role in the reduction of insect numbers, or that it has no impact. " Needs more research.
guerrilla 5y ago
There's no mention of sound or noise in either one of those.
- DocTomoe 5y ago
  The insect study focusses on getting hit by the turbine wing, that's right. The bird study only talks about effects, without specifying effects, and takes note about bird-specific things like "avoidance distance", which is linked to - among other factors - noise. Tbh: it does feel like you are moving goalposts because the studies do not show what you'd like them to show, that wind energy is green and ecologically friendly. We see that a lot.
  - guerrilla 5y ago
    >>> Wind produces noise >> Noise doesn't only affect humans. > Well, let me know when you have a study showing how the mice and vipers in those fields are affected. This part of the thread is about noise. I'm not moving the goalpost, you're just off topic.

otherme123 5y ago

This is anecdata, but I was hiking through an eolic field and saw a group of semi-wild horses directly below a turbine. Some of them were grazing, others were resting/sleeping. None of them could care less about the noise.