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... or go to the cinema

by jjgreen 5y ago

genghizkhan 5y ago
To rewatch Lord of the Rings? I think not.
- moffkalast 5y ago
  The age of cinema is over. The time of the torrents has come.
  - hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
    Torrents have one crucial disadvantage: they require you to make the content publicly available in the process, which is illegal in many countries. It is much better to download it, which is not illegal in most jurisdictions, with one notable exception of proprietary software.
    - sodality2 5y ago
      The alternative is servers that get hammered during downloads, as opposed to swarms where the download health improves when more people use it.
      - hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
        The current ecosystem dealt with the problem of hammering by using various filehosters and most of them are DMCA-compliant. But the window between the release and the file being DMCAed is large enough for this business to thrive. This whole system works by providing value to 3 key parties: * filehosters - they get money from subscribers (some offer a free crippled options just to frustrate users into buying the subscription) * uploaders - they got money from filehosters * downloaders - they got the content they need
    - throaway46546 5y ago
      There are private trackers.
      - oAlbe 5y ago
        What's a private tracker?
        ebb_earl_co 5y ago
        E.g. iptorrents.com. You pay for access (or have to be invited) to a catalog of torrents that are not publicly-available. You must disable the DHT and peer discovery features of your bittorrent client so that the file content is only seeded back to other members
        throaway46546 5y ago
        The better trackers are invite only. If you are found to be selling invites your entire invite tree will be banned. You have to be recruited or personally know a member to get in. Take for example PTP. It is one of the best movie trackers. It recently exceeded 250,000 unique titles available in many different formats. Netflix in contrast only has 15,000 unique titles and their library is shrinking not growing.
    - Bud 5y ago
      Not true; you can disable uploading in various torrent clients.
      - hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
        So, how does it work now? Last time I checked this was called "leeching" and fought against. Also, if everyone is doing that, it makes the whole protocol meaningless.
- Milner08 5y ago
  I mean, when its an option (being in a big city means this actually is a thing quite often) its kinda cool. Especially if its a good cinema. Bloody expensive though and not the kind of thing you can do on a lazy Sunday afternoon cause you're bored.
  - jjgreen 5y ago
    I go to the cinema on a lazy Sunday afternoon, possibly that makes an oddity; whatever, horses for courses I guess ...
  - nandicre 5y ago
    You live in the US ? So sorry for you guys :/ I live in France and go to the cinema pretty often. I have an unlimited card (yes, a real unlimited, sometimes i can watch 5 movies in one day) and it's only 20€/month
    - squeaky-clean 5y ago
      They're referring to watching Lord of The Rings in cinemas, since it's over 20 years old. Though if you have weekly LOTR showings in cinemas I'd strongly consider moving to France ;p We also have unlimited cards here, they're tied to each movie chain. So if you have the AMC unlimited thing it only works at AMC owned theaters etc. It's a great deal. I canceled mine in early 2020 for obvious reasons though.
- mrec 5y ago
  Why not? https://princecharlescinema.com/PrinceCharlesCinema.dll/WhatsOn?f=114268 https://princecharlescinema.com/PrinceCharlesCinema.dll/What...
benjamir 5y ago
To get tinnitus? The last time we tried (again), the sound was overdriven (again) to the point we had all go to the toilet and muffle our ears with toilet paper. Except for small, independent cinemas it has been the same crappy experience for me: expensive, bad sound quality
- Traubenfuchs 5y ago
  As someone who suffers from sensitivity to sound, I always carry around foam plugs. I need them for about every second cinema visit.
  - benjamir 5y ago
    *fuchs: Is it you, bastiaf?
Lev1a 5y ago
> go to the cinema - to watch things I don't wanna watch, - while being gouged for double the BR-retail price PER person PLUS overpriced amenities, - with no option for original audio but only trash-tier dubs (in Germany you'd have to go to one the bigger cities like Berlin for the option) - while sitting together in a hot and stuffy room with a bunch of other (noisy) people - not to mention the time investment of going to the city, standing in line for tickets, waiting for the movie to start and going back home, not even being able to have a beer unless you can/want to take the bus (slightly more money if it's even still running at that time) or a taxi home (considerably more money). In all this makes it: - ~5-15€ per BR, rip it to external drive, watch what I want when I want anywhere in my local network with Jellyfin or on that connected computer with mpv in full quality, with any of the available audio tracks (though usually original audio), in multiple different playback speeds with no extra time and/or money investment OR - 15-20€ per cinema ticket, for any of the small collection of German dubbed they have at what times they decide to show them, ~30-45 minutes of going to the cinema (plus costs thereof), ~20 minutes wait till the ads stop and the movie starts, "enjoy" the full length of poorly dubbed movie in an uncomfortable environment, ~30-45 minutes of going back home (plus costs thereof). So WHY would I EVER choose to go to the cinema?
- majewsky 5y ago
  I presume you're in Germany? Where do they make you pay 15-20€ per ticket? I just bought a cinema ticket today. The sticker price was 10€, and I got it for 6.60€ with a loyalty card (Cineplex High Five, completely tracking-free since I bought it with cash).
  - Lev1a 5y ago
    Mind you, this was almost 10 years ago but I could swear it was something like 16 or 17€ per ticket. I just looked it up though and apparently it's 7-8€/adult now depending on the day. I can order practically any movie DVD/BR I want from reBuy or momox via Amazon including shipping for less than just the ticket price, not to mention time investment etc.
- nightski 5y ago

... or go to the cinema

genghizkhan 5y ago

To rewatch Lord of the Rings? I think not.

moffkalast 5y ago
The age of cinema is over. The time of the torrents has come.
- hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
  Torrents have one crucial disadvantage: they require you to make the content publicly available in the process, which is illegal in many countries. It is much better to download it, which is not illegal in most jurisdictions, with one notable exception of proprietary software.
  - sodality2 5y ago
    The alternative is servers that get hammered during downloads, as opposed to swarms where the download health improves when more people use it.
    - hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
      The current ecosystem dealt with the problem of hammering by using various filehosters and most of them are DMCA-compliant. But the window between the release and the file being DMCAed is large enough for this business to thrive. This whole system works by providing value to 3 key parties: * filehosters - they get money from subscribers (some offer a free crippled options just to frustrate users into buying the subscription) * uploaders - they got money from filehosters * downloaders - they got the content they need
  - throaway46546 5y ago
    There are private trackers.
    - oAlbe 5y ago
      What's a private tracker?
      - ebb_earl_co 5y ago
        E.g. iptorrents.com. You pay for access (or have to be invited) to a catalog of torrents that are not publicly-available. You must disable the DHT and peer discovery features of your bittorrent client so that the file content is only seeded back to other members
      - throaway46546 5y ago
        The better trackers are invite only. If you are found to be selling invites your entire invite tree will be banned. You have to be recruited or personally know a member to get in. Take for example PTP. It is one of the best movie trackers. It recently exceeded 250,000 unique titles available in many different formats. Netflix in contrast only has 15,000 unique titles and their library is shrinking not growing.
  - Bud 5y ago
    Not true; you can disable uploading in various torrent clients.
    - hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
      So, how does it work now? Last time I checked this was called "leeching" and fought against. Also, if everyone is doing that, it makes the whole protocol meaningless.
Milner08 5y ago
I mean, when its an option (being in a big city means this actually is a thing quite often) its kinda cool. Especially if its a good cinema. Bloody expensive though and not the kind of thing you can do on a lazy Sunday afternoon cause you're bored.
- jjgreen 5y ago
  I go to the cinema on a lazy Sunday afternoon, possibly that makes an oddity; whatever, horses for courses I guess ...
- nandicre 5y ago
  You live in the US ? So sorry for you guys :/ I live in France and go to the cinema pretty often. I have an unlimited card (yes, a real unlimited, sometimes i can watch 5 movies in one day) and it's only 20€/month
  - squeaky-clean 5y ago
    They're referring to watching Lord of The Rings in cinemas, since it's over 20 years old. Though if you have weekly LOTR showings in cinemas I'd strongly consider moving to France ;p We also have unlimited cards here, they're tied to each movie chain. So if you have the AMC unlimited thing it only works at AMC owned theaters etc. It's a great deal. I canceled mine in early 2020 for obvious reasons though.
mrec 5y ago
Why not? https://princecharlescinema.com/PrinceCharlesCinema.dll/WhatsOn?f=114268 https://princecharlescinema.com/PrinceCharlesCinema.dll/What...

benjamir 5y ago

To get tinnitus? The last time we tried (again), the sound was overdriven (again) to the point we had all go to the toilet and muffle our ears with toilet paper. Except for small, independent cinemas it has been the same crappy experience for me: expensive, bad sound quality

Traubenfuchs 5y ago
As someone who suffers from sensitivity to sound, I always carry around foam plugs. I need them for about every second cinema visit.
- benjamir 5y ago
  *fuchs: Is it you, bastiaf?

Lev1a 5y ago

> go to the cinema - to watch things I don't wanna watch, - while being gouged for double the BR-retail price PER person PLUS overpriced amenities, - with no option for original audio but only trash-tier dubs (in Germany you'd have to go to one the bigger cities like Berlin for the option) - while sitting together in a hot and stuffy room with a bunch of other (noisy) people - not to mention the time investment of going to the city, standing in line for tickets, waiting for the movie to start and going back home, not even being able to have a beer unless you can/want to take the bus (slightly more money if it's even still running at that time) or a taxi home (considerably more money). In all this makes it: - ~5-15€ per BR, rip it to external drive, watch what I want when I want anywhere in my local network with Jellyfin or on that connected computer with mpv in full quality, with any of the available audio tracks (though usually original audio), in multiple different playback speeds with no extra time and/or money investment OR - 15-20€ per cinema ticket, for any of the small collection of German dubbed they have at what times they decide to show them, ~30-45 minutes of going to the cinema (plus costs thereof), ~20 minutes wait till the ads stop and the movie starts, "enjoy" the full length of poorly dubbed movie in an uncomfortable environment, ~30-45 minutes of going back home (plus costs thereof). So WHY would I EVER choose to go to the cinema?

majewsky 5y ago
I presume you're in Germany? Where do they make you pay 15-20€ per ticket? I just bought a cinema ticket today. The sticker price was 10€, and I got it for 6.60€ with a loyalty card (Cineplex High Five, completely tracking-free since I bought it with cash).
- Lev1a 5y ago
  Mind you, this was almost 10 years ago but I could swear it was something like 16 or 17€ per ticket. I just looked it up though and apparently it's 7-8€/adult now depending on the day. I can order practically any movie DVD/BR I want from reBuy or momox via Amazon including shipping for less than just the ticket price, not to mention time investment etc.
nightski 5y ago