> vaccines don't stop the spread but it will reduce it (definitely with Delta, maybe less so with Omicron). Not with omicron, atleast not really. > And even w

> vaccines don't stop the spread but it will reduce it (definitely with Delta, maybe less so with Omicron). Not with omicron, atleast not really. > And even with omicron, a vaccine will prevent serious illness. So, it's like smoking, the vaccinated get lesser chance of serious illness, and the unvaccinated have themselves to blame. > Yes, I definitely think you could make a case for that. If people could reduce their craving for McDonalds by receiving a yearly injection and they refuse then yeah, you'd be in the same situation. But things are more complicated, being related to addiction, socio economic status etc ... I mean.. they could reduse mcdonalds by just not eating at mcdonalds. > Again, nobody is forced to be vaccinated and it's not just their problem if they don't. You may be refused entry to bars & restaurants but that's not a basic human right, afaik. But curfews (restriction of movement) is a basic human right, that was taken away from us. And again, if vaccines only help the vaccinated, why not let the unvaccinated ones into bars (or mcdonalds)?