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>more DEs is fine and good I tend to disagree here. I recently switched back to MacOS after years of running both. The DEs on Linux are just one generation beh

by iSnow 5y ago

>more DEs is fine and good I tend to disagree here. I recently switched back to MacOS after years of running both. The DEs on Linux are just one generation behind. Things have gotten better, but macOS and to an extend Windows are ahead. Linux DEs would be well advised to onboard more graphics and UI experts to make them more user-friendly and stable. Desktop metaphors have more or less stabilized and it's counter-productive to have 5 takes on the Linux-side alone.

peakaboo 5y ago
It's interesting how people want so different things. I can't stand windows for 5 minutes before it's user interface starts to really annoy me. And mac looks great but all the Linux technology underneath is from the Stone Age. Just to explain why I love Linux so much - when I'm in Gnome, I'm not bothered by any alerts or notifications or popups or sounds or ads or anything! It's a silent, stable, good looking desktop that runs my programs and doesn't get in my way at all. It's amazing! I truly love it.
ILMostro7 5y ago
If the majority of companies that rely on Linux use it as a server for some kind of service(s), desktop environments or even graphics are not a priority. That's not to say that such use-cases don't exist. But the focus is, generally, not on outshining another OS or platform through the user interface or graphics.
FengLengshun 5y ago
I don't disagree, which is why I use KDE, as it is trivial to get it to look and behave like macOS and do so stably. Probably why many KDE distro that aren't following KDE's defaults use it too (Garuda Linux, XeroLinux, FerenOS) I think Linux DEs are fine, it's just that the default config / on-boarding rarely asks what the user wants and what they need. More distro/DEs need to incorporate UX/Desktop Layout Switcher, like Ubuntu Budgie, Zorin OS (Gnome, XFCE), Manjaro (Gnome, there are plans to do KDE as well in the forum?), and FerenOS. It'll solve the issues of personal preference in UX, as people could just one-click choose what feels/looks the best for them. I personally don't mind taking a few hours setting up the UX I want with Fedora KDE, but I doubt most others do.
berkes 5y ago
> user-friendly The entire problem starts and ends with this term. It is ambiguous, personal, localized, fluid and case-dependent. What is friendly to one user, is insulting to another. What is friendly to me at 10:00 in the morning is frustrating when I have a presentation in two minutes. What is friendly to an American pensioned welder, is insulting to an Iranian accountant.

by iSnow 5y ago

peakaboo 5y ago

It's interesting how people want so different things. I can't stand windows for 5 minutes before it's user interface starts to really annoy me. And mac looks great but all the Linux technology underneath is from the Stone Age. Just to explain why I love Linux so much - when I'm in Gnome, I'm not bothered by any alerts or notifications or popups or sounds or ads or anything! It's a silent, stable, good looking desktop that runs my programs and doesn't get in my way at all. It's amazing! I truly love it.

ILMostro7 5y ago

If the majority of companies that rely on Linux use it as a server for some kind of service(s), desktop environments or even graphics are not a priority. That's not to say that such use-cases don't exist. But the focus is, generally, not on outshining another OS or platform through the user interface or graphics.

FengLengshun 5y ago

I don't disagree, which is why I use KDE, as it is trivial to get it to look and behave like macOS and do so stably. Probably why many KDE distro that aren't following KDE's defaults use it too (Garuda Linux, XeroLinux, FerenOS) I think Linux DEs are fine, it's just that the default config / on-boarding rarely asks what the user wants and what they need. More distro/DEs need to incorporate UX/Desktop Layout Switcher, like Ubuntu Budgie, Zorin OS (Gnome, XFCE), Manjaro (Gnome, there are plans to do KDE as well in the forum?), and FerenOS. It'll solve the issues of personal preference in UX, as people could just one-click choose what feels/looks the best for them. I personally don't mind taking a few hours setting up the UX I want with Fedora KDE, but I doubt most others do.

berkes 5y ago

> user-friendly The entire problem starts and ends with this term. It is ambiguous, personal, localized, fluid and case-dependent. What is friendly to one user, is insulting to another. What is friendly to me at 10:00 in the morning is frustrating when I have a presentation in two minutes. What is friendly to an American pensioned welder, is insulting to an Iranian accountant.