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Nobody can make statements like that with any confidence, and I feel it's misleading and possibly dangerously misleading to claim that. COVID and any/all possi
by native_samples 5y ago
Nobody can make statements like that with any confidence, and I feel it's misleading and possibly dangerously misleading to claim that.
COVID and any/all possible symptoms are being searched for with the largest dragnet disease surveillance system in history. Millions of people are subject to essentially "random" COVID testing per day, and if any of them become positive, that triggers a chain of events that leads to huge quantities of research effort being directed towards them.
Myocarditis cases are being investigated only when people turn up at hospital saying "my heart hurts", and even then, there is enormous pressure on medics to not ascribe these cases to vaccination. There is no systematic survey of the population being done to detect these cases.
Thus it's not really possible to say how often myocarditis is being created by COVID vaccines in the general population. All the numbers being thrown around in this thread, like the top voted post, are ridiculous because they're assuming that both sides of the ratio are being discovered in equal proportions, which clearly cannot be true.
One of my own best friends took Moderna, which has a much higher risk of triggering myocarditis than COVID according to British data, even though nobody is looking for. Sure enough a couple of months later he experienced some sort of "heart event". I'm not sure it was quite a heart attack exactly but he experienced sudden extreme fatigue in which he had to lie down, a squeezing sensation in his chest and racing heart with skipped/irregular heartbeats. Whatever it was, he didn't report it or get it looked at.
- 20after4 5y agoThat sounds like you described a heart attack. They aren't always fatal and many people have a heart attack without realizing that's what it was.
- native_samples 5y agoI was hoping nobody would say that :( I guess I should tell him.