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Only in India the excess deaths were 4.5M in one year. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-57888460 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-5788846

Only in India the excess deaths were 4.5M in one year. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-57888460 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-57888460 The total death count for covid will be known only in the next years and it’s for sure many multiple of the current official numbers.

ajsnigrutin 5y ago
So, which country data do you want to use? Usa, 480k smoking deaths yearly - https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/index.htm https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast... , still more than covid deaths there. And not to mention counting the iffy counting of covid deaths (any death, even suicide within 28 days is a covid death) and covid hospitalizations ( https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/26/exclusive-half-covid-hospitalisations-tested-positive-admission/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/26/exclusive-half-c... ). Let's be honest here... covid is really bad for old and already ill people. For young and currently healthy, the impacts of lockdowns will be worse than covid, especially for younger children (imagine just going to first grade, unable to rad and write yet, and you're put infront of a laptop with Zoom running, no real-life contact with friends, parents having to quit their jobs to take care of you, and all that to "save grandma", even with vaccines already available).
- tigershark 5y ago
  USA excess deaths are over 1M so it’s still greater than smoke deaths. 646k is for the first year: https://www.nber.org/papers/w29503 https://www.nber.org/papers/w29503 646k > 480k if I’m not mistaken.
  - ajsnigrutin 5y ago
    So, every excess deaths is a covid death now? 20k of those, are just extra overdoses (100k total). - https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2021/20211117.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2021/...

ajsnigrutin 5y ago

So, which country data do you want to use? Usa, 480k smoking deaths yearly - https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/index.htm https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast... , still more than covid deaths there. And not to mention counting the iffy counting of covid deaths (any death, even suicide within 28 days is a covid death) and covid hospitalizations ( https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/26/exclusive-half-covid-hospitalisations-tested-positive-admission/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/26/exclusive-half-c... ). Let's be honest here... covid is really bad for old and already ill people. For young and currently healthy, the impacts of lockdowns will be worse than covid, especially for younger children (imagine just going to first grade, unable to rad and write yet, and you're put infront of a laptop with Zoom running, no real-life contact with friends, parents having to quit their jobs to take care of you, and all that to "save grandma", even with vaccines already available).

tigershark 5y ago
USA excess deaths are over 1M so it’s still greater than smoke deaths. 646k is for the first year: https://www.nber.org/papers/w29503 https://www.nber.org/papers/w29503 646k > 480k if I’m not mistaken.
- ajsnigrutin 5y ago
  So, every excess deaths is a covid death now? 20k of those, are just extra overdoses (100k total). - https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2021/20211117.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2021/...