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> The political cost of letting Djokovic stay was too high for Morrison > Australians have been barred from visiting a dying parent in hospital, blocked from se

> The political cost of letting Djokovic stay was too high for Morrison > Australians have been barred from visiting a dying parent in hospital, blocked from seeing a new grandchild and forbidden from having a wedding. Should they accept that a tennis star gets the leeway they were denied? This is bizarre logic. "I got screwed, so someone else should get screwed too!" He got the exemption. It was challenged in court. He won that case. Now a minister's "personal discretion" (why is this even a thing?) timed perfectly so that even if Novak wins the court case, it would be too late for him to participate in the Australian Open.

karmasimida 5y ago
Didn't he lie that he wouldn't do international travel 14 days before entering Australia? I think there are plenty of evidence for the government to cancel him on this one.
relyks 5y ago
Djokovic has demonstrated recklessness in dealing with COVID precautions. Read his Instagram statement: https://www.instagram.com/p/CYnO7cDqbdj/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CYnO7cDqbdj/
- Canada 5y ago
  Would you paste it or quote from it for those of us who won't login to Instagram?
  - stef25 5y ago
    He posted images, here you go https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e15/s1080x1080/271784084_263739739046753_2542195427513812267_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=1&_nc_ohc=Y6-1_eNFs0wAX_muN5X&tn=-Qez1GJz__ewtPbs&edm=AABBvjUBAAAA&ccb=7-4&oh=00_AT_1tnf2HGs8Fm9zZ16XdD9Ifl5nJEWsG7xCrJ67lkS_gA&oe=61E78E9E&_nc_sid=83d603 https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e1... https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e15/s1080x1080/271628358_449753343268937_4285302826502693296_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=1&_nc_ohc=DN0Dn9FQHA0AX_w3JU_&edm=AABBvjUBAAAA&ccb=7-4&oh=00_AT_0DA7Hk-en6Mio7pd_wD0GX6erG2SUi8xeo9lXx_4DxA&oe=61E868A3&_nc_sid=83d603 https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e1... https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e15/s1080x1080/271580018_119494650593967_7703820489756821102_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=103&_nc_ohc=Ah4n4GhnSFkAX9GZg0z&tn=-Qez1GJz__ewtPbs&edm=AABBvjUBAAAA&ccb=7-4&oh=00_AT-nrq7J9LS802zuOHHiUHISgt52fZRAsuaX9rj_E3Rlfw&oe=61E84DBF&_nc_sid=83d603 https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e1... https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e15/s1080x1080/271556830_3058426824370281_4441150470964509124_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=109&_nc_ohc=YsGpl3N-tAsAX-YMeMB&edm=AABBvjUBAAAA&ccb=7-4&oh=00_AT_2soRD4p7l6KE929-jchRO9L2JX-9jWoZ4qNiKqT0ZMw&oe=61E7C393&_nc_sid=83d603 https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e1... https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e15/s1080x1080/271698908_254436903489695_6568836930630370775_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=111&_nc_ohc=RRumB2EopO4AX9CkRnm&tn=-Qez1GJz__ewtPbs&edm=AABBvjUBAAAA&ccb=7-4&oh=00_AT_ltYAsbdb-SPqzYj7rzxMECnqRQBmqaLiHeO93tfvBMg&oe=61E8EB99&_nc_sid=83d603 https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e1...
  - King-Aaron 5y ago
    I don't think you need to be logged in to instagram to view that link, I didn't.
  - relyks 5y ago
    I pasted the text on the parent thread here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29931975 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29931975
  - davidbarker 5y ago
    "STATEMENT BY NOVAK DJOKOVIC 12 January 2022 I want to address the continuing misinformation about my activities and attendance at events in December in the lead up to my positive PCR COVID test result. This is misinformation which needs to be corrected, particularly in the interest of alleviating broader concern in the community about my presence in Australia, and to address matters which are very hurtful and concerning to my family. I want to emphasise that I have tried very hard to ensure the safety of everyone and my compliance with testing obligations. I attended a basketball game in Belgrade on 14 December after which it was reported that a number of people tested positive with COVID 19. Despite having no COVID symptoms, I took a rapid antigen test on 16 December which was negative, and out of an abundance of caution, also took an official and approved PCR test on that same day. The next day I attended a tennis event in Belgrade to present awards to children and took a rapid antigen test before going to the event, and it was negative. I was asymptomatic and felt good, and I had not received the notification of a positive PCR test result until after that event. The next day, on 18 December I was at my tennis centre in Belgrade to fulfil a long-standing commitment for a L'Equipe interview and photoshoot. I cancelled all other events except for the L'Equipe interview. I felt obliged to go ahead and conduct the L'Equipe interview as I didn't want to let the journalist down, but did ensure I socially distanced and wore a mask except when my photograph was being taken. While I went home after the interview to isolate for the required period, on reflection, this was an error of judgement and I accept that I should have rescheduled this commitment. On the issue of my travel declaration, this was submitted by my support team on my behalf - as I told immigration officials on my arrival - and my agent sincerely apologises for the administrative mistake in ticking the incorrect box about my previous travel before coming to Australia. This was a human error and certainly not deliberate. We are living in challenging times in a global pandemic and sometimes these mistakes can occur. Today, my team has provided additional information to the Australian Government to clarify this matter. While I felt it was important to address and clarify misinformation I will not be making any further comment out of utmost respect for the Australian Government and their authorities and the current process. It is always an honour and a privilege to play in the Australian Open. The Australian Open is much-loved by players, fans and the community, not just in Victoria and in Australia, but around the globe, and I just want to have the opportunity to compete against the best players in the world and perform before one of the best crowds in the world." [source: https://www.instagram.com/p/CYnO7cDqbdj/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CYnO7cDqbdj/]
diiaann 5y ago
Djokovic won the original challenge on procedural grounds that the process was incorrect, not that his exemption/documentation was valid. He was never exculpated. And let's not forget that Djokovic screwed this up for himself.
jlangenauer 5y ago
Perhaps you are unfamiliar with Australians - and I speak as one, now thankfully living elsewhere - but "I got screwed, so someone else should get screwed too!" is a big part of the national psyche, along with "How dare someone get something that I'm not getting!".
- ajsnigrutin 5y ago
  Dude, come to Slovenia, here it's "I want my neighbor to get screwed, even if I get screwed too, just that he gets screwed more!"
- someotherperson 5y ago
  Sorry, but no. Expecting consistency in the application of law is fundamental to democracy. It's not Australian to think that celebrities and the rich receiving a different set of laws and treatment is unfair. ...which Djokovic still received, by the way. There are people in his detention centre that have been waiting for 10 years to receive half the time of the courts that Djokovic has received in a week. If Australians were as you described, then Djokovic would be held for 3 years in his current facility then sent to Nauru for a further five years of off-shore processing.
rosndo 5y ago
> This is bizarre logic. "I got screwed, so someone else should get screwed too!" That has been the entire logic behind extending covid restrictions to apply beyond vulnerable groups.
cynix 5y ago
> He got the exemption. By lying on his application and entry forms. > It was challenged in court. He won that case. The first visa cancellation was overruled purely on the grounds that it was issued too quickly and did not give him enough time to respond. It has nothing to do with whether his exemption was valid (which it clearly isn’t).
michaelt 5y ago
> This is bizarre logic. "I got screwed, so someone else should get screwed too!" Not at all. The government sets a bunch of strict rules with no exceptions and tells people it's very important that they obey the rules. It's entirely reasonable for people to take that at face value - if these rules are important, they should apply to the rich and famous just like they do to everyone else.
tigershark 5y ago
No, it’s not bizarre at all. If he really was positive in December and attended several events while knowing that he was positive without taking any precautions it’s a criminal behaviour and they have all the rights to ban him on these grounds. If he wasn’t positive then it means that he forged his test certificate, that is equally bad. I don’t see any issue in banning someone that has been proven to be an health danger for the general population.
- borispavlovic 5y ago
  in the first case he's on the hook in Serbia, not in Australia in the second case, these documents resolve to an official Serbian covid certificate web page and it's the country of Serbia responsibility to explain to other countries in the world how that was possible to happen and to find out who did it now, the fact that Novak visited Spain and his agency "forgot" to mention it in the PLF that's a leverage that could be used
Ma8ee 5y ago
> This is bizarre logic. "I got screwed, so someone else should get screwed too!" Or, I had to follow the law, so everyone else should too. I'm getting upset if the law is only for the simple people like me, but not for big sports stars and other hotshots.

karmasimida 5y ago

Didn't he lie that he wouldn't do international travel 14 days before entering Australia? I think there are plenty of evidence for the government to cancel him on this one.

relyks 5y ago

Djokovic has demonstrated recklessness in dealing with COVID precautions. Read his Instagram statement: https://www.instagram.com/p/CYnO7cDqbdj/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CYnO7cDqbdj/

Canada 5y ago
Would you paste it or quote from it for those of us who won't login to Instagram?
- stef25 5y ago
  He posted images, here you go https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e15/s1080x1080/271784084_263739739046753_2542195427513812267_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=1&_nc_ohc=Y6-1_eNFs0wAX_muN5X&tn=-Qez1GJz__ewtPbs&edm=AABBvjUBAAAA&ccb=7-4&oh=00_AT_1tnf2HGs8Fm9zZ16XdD9Ifl5nJEWsG7xCrJ67lkS_gA&oe=61E78E9E&_nc_sid=83d603 https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e1... https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e15/s1080x1080/271628358_449753343268937_4285302826502693296_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=1&_nc_ohc=DN0Dn9FQHA0AX_w3JU_&edm=AABBvjUBAAAA&ccb=7-4&oh=00_AT_0DA7Hk-en6Mio7pd_wD0GX6erG2SUi8xeo9lXx_4DxA&oe=61E868A3&_nc_sid=83d603 https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e1... https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e15/s1080x1080/271580018_119494650593967_7703820489756821102_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=103&_nc_ohc=Ah4n4GhnSFkAX9GZg0z&tn=-Qez1GJz__ewtPbs&edm=AABBvjUBAAAA&ccb=7-4&oh=00_AT-nrq7J9LS802zuOHHiUHISgt52fZRAsuaX9rj_E3Rlfw&oe=61E84DBF&_nc_sid=83d603 https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e1... https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e15/s1080x1080/271556830_3058426824370281_4441150470964509124_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=109&_nc_ohc=YsGpl3N-tAsAX-YMeMB&edm=AABBvjUBAAAA&ccb=7-4&oh=00_AT_2soRD4p7l6KE929-jchRO9L2JX-9jWoZ4qNiKqT0ZMw&oe=61E7C393&_nc_sid=83d603 https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e1... https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e15/s1080x1080/271698908_254436903489695_6568836930630370775_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=111&_nc_ohc=RRumB2EopO4AX9CkRnm&tn=-Qez1GJz__ewtPbs&edm=AABBvjUBAAAA&ccb=7-4&oh=00_AT_ltYAsbdb-SPqzYj7rzxMECnqRQBmqaLiHeO93tfvBMg&oe=61E8EB99&_nc_sid=83d603 https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e1...
- King-Aaron 5y ago
  I don't think you need to be logged in to instagram to view that link, I didn't.
- relyks 5y ago
  I pasted the text on the parent thread here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29931975 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29931975
- davidbarker 5y ago
  "STATEMENT BY NOVAK DJOKOVIC 12 January 2022 I want to address the continuing misinformation about my activities and attendance at events in December in the lead up to my positive PCR COVID test result. This is misinformation which needs to be corrected, particularly in the interest of alleviating broader concern in the community about my presence in Australia, and to address matters which are very hurtful and concerning to my family. I want to emphasise that I have tried very hard to ensure the safety of everyone and my compliance with testing obligations. I attended a basketball game in Belgrade on 14 December after which it was reported that a number of people tested positive with COVID 19. Despite having no COVID symptoms, I took a rapid antigen test on 16 December which was negative, and out of an abundance of caution, also took an official and approved PCR test on that same day. The next day I attended a tennis event in Belgrade to present awards to children and took a rapid antigen test before going to the event, and it was negative. I was asymptomatic and felt good, and I had not received the notification of a positive PCR test result until after that event. The next day, on 18 December I was at my tennis centre in Belgrade to fulfil a long-standing commitment for a L'Equipe interview and photoshoot. I cancelled all other events except for the L'Equipe interview. I felt obliged to go ahead and conduct the L'Equipe interview as I didn't want to let the journalist down, but did ensure I socially distanced and wore a mask except when my photograph was being taken. While I went home after the interview to isolate for the required period, on reflection, this was an error of judgement and I accept that I should have rescheduled this commitment. On the issue of my travel declaration, this was submitted by my support team on my behalf - as I told immigration officials on my arrival - and my agent sincerely apologises for the administrative mistake in ticking the incorrect box about my previous travel before coming to Australia. This was a human error and certainly not deliberate. We are living in challenging times in a global pandemic and sometimes these mistakes can occur. Today, my team has provided additional information to the Australian Government to clarify this matter. While I felt it was important to address and clarify misinformation I will not be making any further comment out of utmost respect for the Australian Government and their authorities and the current process. It is always an honour and a privilege to play in the Australian Open. The Australian Open is much-loved by players, fans and the community, not just in Victoria and in Australia, but around the globe, and I just want to have the opportunity to compete against the best players in the world and perform before one of the best crowds in the world." [source: https://www.instagram.com/p/CYnO7cDqbdj/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CYnO7cDqbdj/]

diiaann 5y ago

Djokovic won the original challenge on procedural grounds that the process was incorrect, not that his exemption/documentation was valid. He was never exculpated. And let's not forget that Djokovic screwed this up for himself.

jlangenauer 5y ago

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with Australians - and I speak as one, now thankfully living elsewhere - but "I got screwed, so someone else should get screwed too!" is a big part of the national psyche, along with "How dare someone get something that I'm not getting!".

ajsnigrutin 5y ago
Dude, come to Slovenia, here it's "I want my neighbor to get screwed, even if I get screwed too, just that he gets screwed more!"
someotherperson 5y ago
Sorry, but no. Expecting consistency in the application of law is fundamental to democracy. It's not Australian to think that celebrities and the rich receiving a different set of laws and treatment is unfair. ...which Djokovic still received, by the way. There are people in his detention centre that have been waiting for 10 years to receive half the time of the courts that Djokovic has received in a week. If Australians were as you described, then Djokovic would be held for 3 years in his current facility then sent to Nauru for a further five years of off-shore processing.

rosndo 5y ago

> This is bizarre logic. "I got screwed, so someone else should get screwed too!" That has been the entire logic behind extending covid restrictions to apply beyond vulnerable groups.

cynix 5y ago

> He got the exemption. By lying on his application and entry forms. > It was challenged in court. He won that case. The first visa cancellation was overruled purely on the grounds that it was issued too quickly and did not give him enough time to respond. It has nothing to do with whether his exemption was valid (which it clearly isn’t).

michaelt 5y ago

> This is bizarre logic. "I got screwed, so someone else should get screwed too!" Not at all. The government sets a bunch of strict rules with no exceptions and tells people it's very important that they obey the rules. It's entirely reasonable for people to take that at face value - if these rules are important, they should apply to the rich and famous just like they do to everyone else.

tigershark 5y ago

No, it’s not bizarre at all. If he really was positive in December and attended several events while knowing that he was positive without taking any precautions it’s a criminal behaviour and they have all the rights to ban him on these grounds. If he wasn’t positive then it means that he forged his test certificate, that is equally bad. I don’t see any issue in banning someone that has been proven to be an health danger for the general population.

borispavlovic 5y ago
in the first case he's on the hook in Serbia, not in Australia in the second case, these documents resolve to an official Serbian covid certificate web page and it's the country of Serbia responsibility to explain to other countries in the world how that was possible to happen and to find out who did it now, the fact that Novak visited Spain and his agency "forgot" to mention it in the PLF that's a leverage that could be used

Ma8ee 5y ago

> This is bizarre logic. "I got screwed, so someone else should get screwed too!" Or, I had to follow the law, so everyone else should too. I'm getting upset if the law is only for the simple people like me, but not for big sports stars and other hotshots.