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Side point: I think dealing with counterfeit goods could be a good way for developed nations to bring back more manufacturing and generally better products. I

Side point: I think dealing with counterfeit goods could be a good way for developed nations to bring back more manufacturing and generally better products. I wonder if a good system would be to beef up quality checks on imported. Make sure things are what they are and made with materials you want for the health of you population as I have little doubt many kids toys, furniture's, building materials and food plastics etc are probably not as safe as you'd want or blatantly containing banned items. I was thinking a good way yo do it would be a combination of 1) importers pay for the inspections rather than the nominal current fee and 2) importers could get a 'grade' kind of like financial ratings. As importers show good practice over time their grade reflects this and less goods are inspected and cost to import go down. This could create real value to certification and if done right it would be something groups strongly protect. It would stop people jumping on trends with dodgy products as new importers would have to pay upfront for inspections and risk losing their goods, which would be a game changer for product quality. I think something like this would have so many benefits in removing counterfeit and healthier products in countries. Also I wonder if it would level the playing field in manufacturing domestically for developed nations, so companies doing the right thing are not disadvantaged so much to those willing to cut corners. Also would probably have a huge flow-on effect to drug importation as I imagine a bunch of this happens with less reputable importers but Im guessing here. Anyway talking from a very non-expert position so likely flawed view... but strongly feel this is something that that needs to be dealt with for counterfeit/health reasons.

dehrmann 5y ago
> bring back more manufacturing and generally better products. There's no reason there wouldn't be domestic counterfeit goods, and quality has more to do with what people are willing to pay. True, Chinese goods tend to be low quality because they're made in China so they can be as cheap as possible, but Apple also has a lot of production there, they just use reputable vendors.
- Gustomaximus 5y ago
  Probably not stop counterfeit , but would significantly reduce it having domestic accountability. Much easier to do criminal charges, apply fines to property/factory etc. That recourse for quality largely doesn't exist for most importers and foreign governments to place like china except for the most serious of offences. And with things like Apple (or any big brand), they have incredible buying power + ability to resource high level of QA. That works for powerful companies for sure but once you drop in scale and on more generic goods, that is clearly another story.

dehrmann 5y ago

> bring back more manufacturing and generally better products. There's no reason there wouldn't be domestic counterfeit goods, and quality has more to do with what people are willing to pay. True, Chinese goods tend to be low quality because they're made in China so they can be as cheap as possible, but Apple also has a lot of production there, they just use reputable vendors.

Gustomaximus 5y ago
Probably not stop counterfeit , but would significantly reduce it having domestic accountability. Much easier to do criminal charges, apply fines to property/factory etc. That recourse for quality largely doesn't exist for most importers and foreign governments to place like china except for the most serious of offences. And with things like Apple (or any big brand), they have incredible buying power + ability to resource high level of QA. That works for powerful companies for sure but once you drop in scale and on more generic goods, that is clearly another story.