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The sad state of affairs. So many ways to do it wrong. Even weirder is the CDC site here says under the "masks that meet standards" header, "Do NOT wear" them

The sad state of affairs. So many ways to do it wrong. Even weirder is the CDC site here says under the "masks that meet standards" header, "Do NOT wear" them if you have facial hair. Seriously. If you don't believe me https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/pdfs/facialhairwmask11282017-508.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/pdfs/facialhairwmask11282017...

veonik 5y ago
If you have facial hair, you can't expect a good seal around the edges of the mask, so there will be some air getting to you (and out of you) that is unfiltered.
gadflyinyoureye 5y ago
When I raised facial hair as an issue I was laughed at. I knew it was a problem because I had a full beard and could feel my breath escape. I guess now there should be shave mandates since double shot with a booster and a beard means distributing death.
- jdavis703 5y ago
  If you have a large beard, you’re basically unmasked. I think the CDC is right. If you’re bearded, it’s just hygiene theater. I’m not sure what can be done, mandating shaving would run against Jewish and Islamic beliefs, so any such mandate would probably be struck down quickly.
  - bradknowles 5y ago
    You can trim the beards down to get good fit. They can be as long as 10mm and not have any material impact on the fit of the mask, so long as you use the right mask-fitting process. They may be harder to fit on someone with a 10mm beard, but it’s still do-able. Same with CPAP and SCUBA masks.
  - cute_boi 5y ago
    Yea its so sad that many old beliefs will render the efforts like masks useless (to some extent but I still think it is beneficial over no masks.). :(
    - throwoutway 5y ago
      Let’s not be degrading by calling things old beliefs. There are plenty of hipster millennials growing immaculate beards and video blogging about it which are just as problematic with what the CDC said and would be upset
- Animats 5y ago
  Then you need a full face respirator. Standard item, but rather pricey.
PopeUrbanX 5y ago
cute_boi 5y ago
This is also why military are told to have clean shave in world war II. Masks were important due to poisonous gas issues and facial hair creates a lot of problems. So I don't this it is incredulous thing :)

veonik 5y ago

If you have facial hair, you can't expect a good seal around the edges of the mask, so there will be some air getting to you (and out of you) that is unfiltered.

gadflyinyoureye 5y ago

When I raised facial hair as an issue I was laughed at. I knew it was a problem because I had a full beard and could feel my breath escape. I guess now there should be shave mandates since double shot with a booster and a beard means distributing death.

jdavis703 5y ago
If you have a large beard, you’re basically unmasked. I think the CDC is right. If you’re bearded, it’s just hygiene theater. I’m not sure what can be done, mandating shaving would run against Jewish and Islamic beliefs, so any such mandate would probably be struck down quickly.
- bradknowles 5y ago
  You can trim the beards down to get good fit. They can be as long as 10mm and not have any material impact on the fit of the mask, so long as you use the right mask-fitting process. They may be harder to fit on someone with a 10mm beard, but it’s still do-able. Same with CPAP and SCUBA masks.
- cute_boi 5y ago
  Yea its so sad that many old beliefs will render the efforts like masks useless (to some extent but I still think it is beneficial over no masks.). :(
  - throwoutway 5y ago
    Let’s not be degrading by calling things old beliefs. There are plenty of hipster millennials growing immaculate beards and video blogging about it which are just as problematic with what the CDC said and would be upset
Animats 5y ago
Then you need a full face respirator. Standard item, but rather pricey.

PopeUrbanX 5y ago

cute_boi 5y ago

This is also why military are told to have clean shave in world war II. Masks were important due to poisonous gas issues and facial hair creates a lot of problems. So I don't this it is incredulous thing :)