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I'm not sure I'm following. As a user of software, what are the benefits of something that is "source available" but not open source? Why would this be importa

I'm not sure I'm following. As a user of software, what are the benefits of something that is "source available" but not open source? Why would this be important to you? I guess I can think of a few reasons. To help you learn how to use the software better than just from vendor-provided documentation? To help you find bugs, instead of relying on the vendor to do that? (when you're paying for software, these are kind of things one hopes one is paying for the vendor to do for you so you don't have to do it yourself, but we all know that hope is not always bourne out...) What are the actual reasons people are interested in this, over ordinary "source not available" software distribution/licensing? These above, other?

badsectoracula 5y ago
Source available doesn't mean that you can't do anything with the code, it usually means that there are limitations (e.g. sharing it) with what you can do with it. There are a lot of cases where "source available" expects you to modify the code and even share patches with others. A popular example nowadays would be Unreal Engine 4, but it isn't anything new - Borland's OWL was distributed as source code and you need a license to use it (it is part of C++ compilers so any of their compilers would provide a license), but over the decades there have been improvements made by its users in the form of OWLNext that is meant to be installed "on top" of OWL (ie. wont work by itself).
- jrochkind1 5y ago
  OK, so the reason you are interested in this is for the ability to write, share and use patches that can be used by those who pay for a license to the code, to be able to add features without having to rely/wait for the vendor to do so?
  - badsectoracula 5y ago
    Yes, while it is certainly worse than full Free Software from a community perspective, it is still much better than closed source commercial software since you are at least in control - even if the developer shuts down or abandons the project, you are still able to fix bugs and improve the program (you or anyone else who decides to distribute patches - assuming the license doesn't explicitly forbid that, but it'd be pointless to do that IMO, not that some didn't try it). And if you ever decide to move somewhere else, you can still get your data out of the program (modify it to dump to another format or just use the code to make your own converter) so you're not locked in either.

badsectoracula 5y ago

Source available doesn't mean that you can't do anything with the code, it usually means that there are limitations (e.g. sharing it) with what you can do with it. There are a lot of cases where "source available" expects you to modify the code and even share patches with others. A popular example nowadays would be Unreal Engine 4, but it isn't anything new - Borland's OWL was distributed as source code and you need a license to use it (it is part of C++ compilers so any of their compilers would provide a license), but over the decades there have been improvements made by its users in the form of OWLNext that is meant to be installed "on top" of OWL (ie. wont work by itself).

jrochkind1 5y ago
OK, so the reason you are interested in this is for the ability to write, share and use patches that can be used by those who pay for a license to the code, to be able to add features without having to rely/wait for the vendor to do so?
- badsectoracula 5y ago
  Yes, while it is certainly worse than full Free Software from a community perspective, it is still much better than closed source commercial software since you are at least in control - even if the developer shuts down or abandons the project, you are still able to fix bugs and improve the program (you or anyone else who decides to distribute patches - assuming the license doesn't explicitly forbid that, but it'd be pointless to do that IMO, not that some didn't try it). And if you ever decide to move somewhere else, you can still get your data out of the program (modify it to dump to another format or just use the code to make your own converter) so you're not locked in either.