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I honestly don't quite understand what System76s intentions with COSMIC are. To me it feels like a regression from the previous gnome and i've kicked their plug

by lawl 5y ago

I honestly don't quite understand what System76s intentions with COSMIC are. To me it feels like a regression from the previous gnome and i've kicked their plugins to get a regular gnome back. It just... Doesn't do anything my custom openbox or i3 setups in the past didn't do (imo better). Nor is it better at being gnome than gnome. And now that i'm getting old and gotten used to stock gnome it just seems like it makes me change my workflow again for no good reason.

mstipetic 5y ago
Do you really not understand that most people don’t want to use custom i3 configs?
- lawl 5y ago
  I do, as i said, i'm getting old and use stock gnome these days, because i don't want to maintain custom configs for everything anymore.
  - mkdirp 5y ago
    Right. And so Pop!_OS gives you a decent tiling window manager, with sane defaults, without having to spend hours on customising your configuration. What's more, the tiling they provide is an optional feature. You can enable and disable it at any time without messing with you config for hours.
    - lawl 5y ago
      If its good or not is a matter of taste in the end, but not the entire point. It also hijacked Super+L which was screen lock (like on windows). And then cosmic was even worse by changing the behavior of the super key completely. Both of these things broke my workflow for things i never asked for. I like pop and their polish compared to ubuntu [0]. I really hate it when software breaks my workflow. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28904171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28904171
      - mmstick76 5y ago
        It had to be hijacked because HJKL are often used for keyboard navigation for people who prefer right-handed home-row navigation. Super+Esc is the shortcut you're looking for.
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        lawl 5y ago
        What percentage of your user base never activates tiling? Are you sure you had to break things for them instead of only hijacking it when tiling is enabled? And that still doesn't address hijacking the super key completely with cosmic. Sorry but imo these things have been handled really poorly.
- Shared404 5y ago
  This is my thing. I have machines where I run Alpine with sway customized. I have had machines where I've run without a DE at all. I've customized things that weren't meant to be, and not customized things that were. But if I want something where I can walk up to any somewhat modern machine (currently typing this on an old Alienware running pop), and install an OS that gives me an i3-like environment with no extra work? Pop is fantastic. There are things that I would do differently. But they're minor and being able to just go is worth a lot.

by lawl 5y ago

mstipetic 5y ago

Do you really not understand that most people don’t want to use custom i3 configs?

lawl 5y ago
I do, as i said, i'm getting old and use stock gnome these days, because i don't want to maintain custom configs for everything anymore.
- mkdirp 5y ago
  Right. And so Pop!_OS gives you a decent tiling window manager, with sane defaults, without having to spend hours on customising your configuration. What's more, the tiling they provide is an optional feature. You can enable and disable it at any time without messing with you config for hours.
  - lawl 5y ago
    If its good or not is a matter of taste in the end, but not the entire point. It also hijacked Super+L which was screen lock (like on windows). And then cosmic was even worse by changing the behavior of the super key completely. Both of these things broke my workflow for things i never asked for. I like pop and their polish compared to ubuntu [0]. I really hate it when software breaks my workflow. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28904171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28904171
    - mmstick76 5y ago
      It had to be hijacked because HJKL are often used for keyboard navigation for people who prefer right-handed home-row navigation. Super+Esc is the shortcut you're looking for.
      - deleted 5y ago
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      - lawl 5y ago
        What percentage of your user base never activates tiling? Are you sure you had to break things for them instead of only hijacking it when tiling is enabled? And that still doesn't address hijacking the super key completely with cosmic. Sorry but imo these things have been handled really poorly.
Shared404 5y ago
This is my thing. I have machines where I run Alpine with sway customized. I have had machines where I've run without a DE at all. I've customized things that weren't meant to be, and not customized things that were. But if I want something where I can walk up to any somewhat modern machine (currently typing this on an old Alienware running pop), and install an OS that gives me an i3-like environment with no extra work? Pop is fantastic. There are things that I would do differently. But they're minor and being able to just go is worth a lot.