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>It's one of the oldest tricks in the book. I mean, isn't this also the tactic used in the late 1800s in the western U.S. to give a reason to pacify Native Ame
by bumby 5y ago
>It's one of the oldest tricks in the book.
I mean, isn't this also the tactic used in the late 1800s in the western U.S. to give a reason to pacify Native Americans? Promote U.S. citizens into frontier homesteads and then use the military to protect them/annex land?
- kaczordon 5y agoNot sure why’re your bringing the U.S. into this right now to bash it. If anything increased U.S. military presence in Poland is sorely needed.
- yongjik 5y agoI don't think GP is trying to bash the US: they're just pointing out it's "the oldest trick in the book." Obviously that doesn't mean it's OK that Russia is doing it.
- bumby 5y agoCorrect, I was merely underscoring the historic use of the tactic and not "bashing" any country
- remarkEon 5y ago>If anything increased U.S. military presence in Poland is sorely needed. Why? What purpose does this serve?
- ellyagg 5y agoSure, so if you're a big fan of one you'll be a big fan of the other.
- mrguyorama 5y agoYes, and we did the same thing to mexico in order to grab texas. How the heck does this change how bad it is? What's the point of saying "America bad too"? So? America HAS done awful things in the past, that's not valid justification for a hostile annexation of another country's land. Topics on Russia ALWAYS have whataboutism nonsense. It seems supporters of Russian actions so badly want the rest of the world to be shitty too, as if that would justify their actions instead of condemn them as well as everyone else
- bumby 5y agoBeing HN, I may have given too much credit that a comment would be taken at face value and not focused through a nationalistic lens or viewed as some sort of attack. I made no claims that it changes whether the practice is morally or ethically correct. I also didn't claim "America bad too." I merely pointed out another data point relevant to the GP comment about it being an old tactic to annex land. *btw, it's Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and parts of California. The book Blood and Thunder is a great read about the history of expansion of the West
- shashurup 5y agoI believe the reason is that russians often perceive western worldview as a voice from the ivory tower of free world implying some kind of moral superiority. The whataboutism is just an awkward attempt to decline this very moral superiority.